Hi All,

We are thinking of including a few game demos in GameGuru Classic, and would like to ask the community which of the GameGuru games that have been released over the last five years stood out for you? We realized that some are a few years old now, but for new Classic users, it might be good to be able to try them out in one place, and where better than GameGuru Classic itself.

If you have suggestions on what you feel would make a great one-level demo game for inclusion to GameGuru Classic, please post here, and we will check them out. We have had some great reviews recently, perhaps due to the rounds of 'total bug fixing' we did in 2020. We aim to continue this in 2021 with the first zero bug count update in March this year, and it might be a good idea to treat new users to something more than the sample games that let's face it, haven't changed much in five years.

Looking forward to hearing about your top picks!

Literally every game that is better than average uses custom media. And I highly doubt the people who spent insane amount of time and effort into their projects would be willing to share it for literally nothing^^

Maybe I am wrong tho and this is just my personal opinion.

by the way Lee, is there a chance of AI fixes or more performance improvements for classic ?


Back to topic:

Personally I liked Father's Island from Ivan Ertlov. It has a nice atmosphere and good narrative.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/460940/Fathers_Island/

This all depends if the demos are locked or fully accessible. If its a locked demo that can be played but not edited, it would help show what you can make with Game Guru Classic and also be used to promote the game the demo is derived from.

Though for sample editable maps, I don't think many people who have released anything commercially will give that up. Given the amount of custom assets involved, some contracted and purchased most likely.

Another but similar issue, most released games contain content from the Game Creator Store. Also, typically all of the released games that are not commercial, contain Game Creator Store assets.

Father's Island is good. Ertlov is one of the best. I'd rather see focus on GGMax.

I'd also imagine putting your small game up to be a demo could automatically stigmatize it as a passionless hobby project.

It shouldn't be a released game, but just some demo made from scratch, and just with the idea of a demo guide for other users, and it could be made with just stock meshes to make it doable for everybody. IMHO

Perhaps from the Welcome screen allow users to run a couple of included Standalone Demos rather than ones they could edit. Just to show what can be done without anyone who donates worrying about their scripts or assets being used. Its a win win for anyone selling a game and a good built in Advert for GameGuru.

Or Maybe a free Standalone Demo DLC type of thing they can choose to download.

I'd like to suggest the first game demo I made with GG Classic,

Link: https://coldcablegame.itch.io/cold-cable-lifeshift?download

Can change screens to fit a standard if needed.

I have a compiled demo of Father's Island, would have to look if I have the source and if it is GG DX11 compatible.
And I feel really flattered about the mentions

When you can get assets spawning via script, then the games will automatically evolve tremendously by their very nature. After custom models, progressive scripting is very high customization value. But it doesn't make any sense with 32 bit Classic. I would concentrate on this for MAX. What is the new NDA that is stopping GGMAX progress at this time?
As for DEMOS; how about a $7 DLC that people could submit into and receive either a one time payment or some credit or etc?... Like mentioned they should be stand-alones, unless the participant is okay with open release. Of course sometimes a name-in-lights acknowledgment is just as nice a payment to see.

I agree with both 3com and synchromesh. If its an editable demo, it should be a game made up of only stock assets. If its not, it should be a locked demo that people can play and test but not edit. This way people can even promote their games by sending in demos.

A part from custom assets being possibly shared, another concern could also be about someones demo level becoming a steam uploaded asset flip :S

Very glad to hear GG Classic getting some love by the way

Agreed
We would all hope these users will upgrade to Max eventually but in the meantime nothing wrong at all with keeping classic supported

+1
I must admit I'm very focused on GGMax and my project lately, although I agree with it.
Long live to GG.

@Lee & Co

Not in the same league as any of the above but I have "Saviour" which I did a looooong time ago for a competition on another site, can't even remember which one now. It's on sale in the store here, but if Lee would like to consider it, it's not a shoot em up, more of a small walking simulator with puzzles, Lee did comment on it way, way back in a broadcast.

Link is below

https://seller.tgcstore.net/product/edit/30967

Works ok on DX11, and my Asus VivoBook Laptop. Good framerate, just takes a while to load levels. ((Only 2) so a short game 470Mb)

Hello everybody,

In the "Mapbank" folder of my GG Classic "bronze backer" version, I found all these .fpm files :

11-12-16 21:25 1.010.423 ALLWATER.fpm
27-05-15 12:36 270.103 Bridge Battle (MP).fpm
27-05-15 12:40 3.394.760 Camp Oasis (MP).fpm
05-08-16 11:06 139.805 Cartoon Antics.fpm
27-05-15 12:39 232.881 Construction Destruction (MP).fpm
13-05-17 21:09 52.811.558 Default.fpm
19-07-15 13:44 718.669 Desert Fortress (Team MP).fpm
05-08-16 11:04 498.981 Devils Hill (MP).fpm
27-05-15 12:36 73.007 Firing Range (MP).fpm
13-05-17 21:09 251.502 Gem World.fpm
05-08-16 11:06 4.545.247 Get To The River.fpm
05-08-16 11:06 66.722 HealthTypes.fpm
27-05-15 12:45 72.328 Hide and Seek (MP).fpm
19-07-15 13:23 1.142.315 LIMBO (MP).fpm
01-03-17 22:14 3.353.408 Morning Mountain Stroll.fpm
27-05-15 13:04 344.784 Rocket Arena (Team MP).fpm
05-08-16 11:05 50.695 Sprite Test.fpm
27-05-15 13:30 3.607.026 Sunset Island (MP).fpm
02-08-18 21:51 16.258.265 The Asylum.fpm
27-05-15 13:34 2.361.422 The Beach (MP).fpm
27-05-15 13:20 2.371.878 The Beach (Team MP).fpm
27-05-15 13:09 194.383 The Crossing (MP).fpm
03-10-16 23:32 3.372.604 The Dam (MP).fpm
01-03-17 22:14 1.472.085 The Heirs Revenge.fpm
05-08-16 11:06 65.802 The Warehouse.fpm
04-02-21 23:31 <DIR> tutorialmaps

Content of the "tutorialmaps" folder :

19-07-15 13:53 1.759.504 Aftermath.FPM
27-05-15 12:44 17.256 Aftermath.png
27-05-15 13:15 2.496.068 Canyon Delta (S).fpm
27-05-15 12:54 29.461 Canyon Delta (S).png
27-05-15 13:22 2.172.761 Canyon Grassless (S).fpm
27-05-15 12:44 32.281 Canyon Grassless (S).png
27-05-15 13:22 5.034.705 Crystal Spires.fpm
27-05-15 13:16 20.325 Crystal Spires.png
27-05-15 13:34 4.683.769 Garden.fpm
27-05-15 12:56 21.079 Garden.png
27-05-15 13:18 5.780.139 Great Outdoors.bak
19-06-20 14:39 6.427.439 Great Outdoors.fpm
27-05-15 13:26 29.546 Great Outdoors.png
27-05-15 12:56 3.010.256 Haylo World.fpm
27-05-15 12:45 23.026 Haylo World.png
27-05-15 13:22 6.669.421 Ice Mountain.fpm
27-05-15 13:18 28.441 Ice Mountain.png
27-05-15 13:35 4.150.726 Island Resort.fpm
27-05-15 13:18 25.069 Island Resort.png
27-05-15 13:27 7.277.664 Island Surprise.fpm
27-05-15 13:20 29.397 Island Surprise.png
27-05-15 12:57 3.923.055 Island World.fpm
27-05-15 12:57 19.769 Island World.png
27-05-15 13:20 4.069.700 Islands.fpm
27-05-15 12:57 25.344 Islands.png
27-05-15 13:20 7.893.006 Mountain.fpm
27-05-15 12:58 27.705 Mountain.png
27-05-15 12:59 1.944.544 Nature Park.fpm
27-05-15 13:21 27.592 Nature Park.png
27-05-15 12:48 1.780.415 Old Quarry.fpm
27-05-15 13:16 29.993 Old Quarry.png
27-05-15 13:36 5.899.237 Paradise Lost.fpm
27-05-15 13:16 19.663 Paradise Lost.png
27-05-15 13:21 4.226.420 Park Walk.fpm
27-05-15 12:58 27.096 Park Walk.png
27-05-15 13:33 4.923.419 Shimmer.fpm
27-05-15 13:00 27.706 Shimmer.png
27-05-15 13:23 3.266.133 Simple (S).fpm
27-05-15 13:21 27.792 Simple (S).png
27-05-15 13:21 4.077.494 Stone River.fpm
27-05-15 12:59 24.673 Stone River.png
27-05-15 13:01 2.983.397 The Last Place.fpm
27-05-15 13:17 25.676 The Last Place.png
27-05-15 13:21 538.723 The Lost Valley.fpm
27-05-15 13:01 28.356 The Lost Valley.png
27-05-15 13:35 5.809.068 Weary Island.fpm
27-05-15 13:17 28.421 Weary Island.png
19-07-15 14:02 8.361.228 Yellow Brick Road.fpm
27-05-15 12:52 23.091 Yellow Brick Road.png

Furthermore, a few members of this forum gracefully offered some demos of their GG Classic projects.

Example : "The Dam" (SparrowHawk 2016).

I could do a mini dungeon level if lee asked. from classic twin worlds. Not my New world standalone protected only though