Most of my maps are basically between 80 and 90% finished, all that is left is the game play part . in my case i am not only just relying on Ai's that just have to shoot back at the player, but i also have game play were i need Npc's That needs to talk and have better interact animations as well, and this is the point were i become stuck because i, we do not have these kind of Npcs available jet, and it make me sad because i also do not have the skills to make characters like that or even to import them easily as well, So every time i open one of my maps to try and do something it makes me depressed and sad , and at the end i just end up closing my maps again with out doing anything on it. At this point i have lost my ( if i can call it like this , Hunger ) for making games and just don't feel the passion and excitement as i use to feel. I don't blame anyone or person for this, i just thought i want to share my frustration with some of you.
I really hope things will change in the future so i can stop feeling like this.
I hope the rest of you also do not have these obstacles from stopping you to make your dream come true.

Pcs

I feel your pain because I feel the same way -- 100%. I'm a point in my life that I will probably never finish a game anyway. That's because I'm old. So, I just do what I can and to keep my mind active. It's good to get something like what you're feeling off your chest.

Game Guru does seem very much tailored towards a shooter experience, which makes it hard to develop games without a combat element. This is one of the reasons I drifted away from developing my game, Ignite. Yes, there were technical hurdles that were proving difficult to overcome. But one of the main reasons I stopped working on it was because it was very difficult to come up with gameplay that wasn't shooting stuff or derivatives of "find this key", "press this button", or "collect enough of this item". Game Guru has always seemed a bit limited in that regard. These other gameplay mechanics are all theoretically possible in LUA, but are harder to implement.

I too wish we had NPCs that could lip-sync dialogue, and the ability to create dialogue trees without doing it in LUA. Would really open up new storytelling and world-building opportunities for our games.

AE

We had this in FPS Creator x9



However it required a new model and external software to render the lip-sync file. Interesting enough it worked very similar to how Bethesda software renders out its lip sync file system. In the Bethesda games if you give characters dialogue they wont move their mouths at all by default until a lip sync sequence file is generated.

If you are using the masked soldiers they do have gesture animations you could use.



There is no engine today that provides characters with talking animations or lip-sync (other than FPSCx9). So this is not a Game Guru limitation. In this case you'd need to hire a 3D Modeler to either make your characters or modify an existing one to create a mouth. You'd than need to have an animation cycle for the mouth movements and force that with LUA when you want your character to talk, using the LoopAnimation command and give it a duration based on the length of audio (or/and text) of your dialogue.

If you were to go this route id just use a simple open and close mouth animation like they used in Morrowwind:



I've played around a bit with dialogue in FPSCx9 and it was fun to be able to use lip sync. But honestly even a none moving mouth i think is still passable in Game Guru in my opinion:

Unity has add-ons you can download from the stroe to add lip sync.

LipSync Pro is an editor extension for creating high-quality lipsyncing and facial animation inside Unity.

https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/animation/lipsync-pro-32117

Looks like lipsync might be in GG at some point, see Github, branch=ProjectV3

There we go

The alpha code works really well, I was impressed. Not just lip sync, really smooth head turning slerping into body turn and side stepping anims to face player. Very cool addition.

Cheers.

Very good news.

ProjectV3 looks interesting....

Dont give up!

Here is what I do sometimes:

I search the forum for scripts that might be a huge addition to the game!
There are tons of em scattered around!

Just look for them, you will always find at least 1 for your game!

cheers

Yeah, I know-- same way. Shoot at all moving entities gets stale eventually,
so I too try to come up with some kind of variety to script for a game.

If a video is appropriate for your story, you could try FaceRig on Steam.
On Sale today. Pretty high quality facial animation including eyes.
There are a limited number of characters ready to use, and you are
supposed to be able to make custom ones. Look for the Warriors DLC
for examples...

Also of interest, (for video again) though I personally don't have experience
with it is the free to use Source Film Maker, where you can animate characters
in a place setting-- unlimited kinds of ways. My son uses it to create goofy stuff with
the Team Fortress2 characters- and post it to Youtube.

It would be very interesting if someone found a way to emplace the primary
GG characters into that. It's a major piece of software, already to go.

This sound promising.
I will not give up , but right now its rely frustrating and not nice. but i will not give up.
I will wait for this lipsync that is coming.
( Good things will come to those who will wait )

Trying to make a story rather than a run and gun or a hack and slash is *hard*, even with a full questing/dialogue/inventory UI system. Having to hack code to make it happen is even harder.
Daunting in a wholly strange environment - even for those with a coding background.
The trick is to not try to jump over the mountain in a single bound or eat the elephant. Little steps, don't look down, don't look up. It'll make things seem impossible. Take small bites and chew it well.
If you want to make a quest, and you don't want to buy scripts that you don't understand, watch broadcast #15 on how to make a simple fetch quest. Mimic Lee's little project. Do it several times 'till you're comfortable with how the quest is built.
Follow Ravey's video #27 if you want to understand how to make a kill quest.
You *will* find that suddenly, one day, it all clicks and you'll be away.

I spent 40 years in IT having to deal with stuff that I'd not encountered before. It was *always* scary, but I learned to swallow my fear, concentrate on the single problem I had to solve today and ignore the big picture.

Sorry to preach but believe me, I sympathise with you.

I intend making a friendly front end to make building quests easier. It will give users a simple GUI and generate the scripts you need. There'll still be work for you to do in assigning the scripts to the entities involved - my attempts to hack the fpm have so far been unsuccessful.

But all in all, decide you're going to build one quest - a simple one, and don't stop 'till you have. Then walk away and have a beer.

The truth is that even a simple dialogue cutscene like you'd see in a PSX/PS2 game takes at least a year of expertise in animation, sound design, so forth to be decent. A GG user that did a lot in this regard is Avenging Eagle.

There are many ways you can design your game around that. Seeing characters behind some obstruction like bars or windows, having characters talk to you via Comline that you only personally see rarely, looping an idle animation or text based dialogues which you still see frequently in lower budget/indie title. If it worked for games like STALKER or TES3, it likely works for a GG title.

Be sure to write a story that has characters but limit interaction. There is, of course, enough software out there to lipsynch and animate a talking character but it all has its pros and cons and it all requires some time investment. And don't even remotely get inspiration from modern games with fully animated and perfectly voiced characters... it took the industry a long time to get there and its certainly out of reach for the majority of hobbyists.



Well, it CAN be done in LUA but ... I get ya. I always advocated for a simple in-app feature that allows us to do this (something that generates a script that can then be implemented.) I mean, RPGmaker had this for 20 years but whenever I bring it up to people who make 3D game engines, I might have as well introduced myself as Jangles, the moon monkey.



-Wolf

Oh god no don't fall for that one at £6.49
Game development requires the FaceRig Studio licence at … £280 with VAT

https://secure.avangate.com/order/checkout.php?PRODS=4703823&QTY=1&CART=1&CARD=1

And mine didn't even have lipsyncing characters!

AE

if lip sync was the only real miss of gameguru ..if should be a great goal LOL

So, Teabone. When do you reckon the scripts will get onto the store? I had a look ust now and couldn't spot them.

prehaps you are tring to run befor you can walk howlong have you been using GG i have been uning it for about 2 weeks now and thismorning i made a good littel game (for a noob) called the infected it was just kill the monsters get to the safe zone (it's a bit like doom but with malee wepons) tey making one of those forst nothing too taxing the go from there.

Yeah try not too be too ambitious with this engine. Work within its means with what it provides at the moment. Cause if you try to push it too much it can sometimes break

I've dozens of unfinished GG projects due to being too ambitious. So for the moment I'm keeping it simple and working with what i know works and with ease.

@New Emperor , if you look at my years of service you will see how long i have been working with GG. and i am not prepared to put out a game that has been made just in two weeks, GG is part of my life i will not put out a crappy game to make GG name bad. i think you are trying to run before you can walk. i have worked hard for the last 3 years to make a good game. if you were arround here before you would know. you can not make a game in two weeks time and put it out on the internet and make a bad name for GG.!

If you have problems with the animations for gestures, I can help you. All I need is your character in T-pose. I can provide them with some animations that have little or nothing to do with combat. I've had bad experiences with lip syncing so far. I still have not found a reasonable way to get NPCs to answer my questions. Since my knowledge is not available. But there is an easy way to create conversations via video. With "CRAZY TALK" you can do a lot. Should try something with it. Or the easiest way to ask your questions so that your conversation partner can also show your back. But you would have to create suitable scripts.

Lafette II, thank you for your offer, will get back to you on that one.
Good to see you are up and busy, hope you are well my friend.