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Posted: 6th Oct 2017 12:41 Edited at: 6th Oct 2017 12:43
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Today I saw this video of a fps creator shooter wich is on steam.

Sector is the name. In the video I noticed, that the barrels are VERY easy to move and they are obviously very light in their weight...

When I put the physics weight on 1 on a Barrel in gameguru, I still can HARDLY move it around when walking against it.

I hope this will improve ! Or is there anything about the physics-system I missed?

Also I like the pickup object function very much. Is this a script or was this a standard feature in fps creator?


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Posted: 6th Oct 2017 13:42 Edited at: 6th Oct 2017 13:52
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I think it's Physics Friction that decides how easy it is to push them, and physics weight that controls how fast they move once they've been dropped or thrown etc.

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Posted: 6th Oct 2017 13:53 Edited at: 6th Oct 2017 13:54
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Play around with the physics weight and friction. I set a few barrels weight to 20 with friction of say 15 and left some with weight of 100 and friction at 100. You'll find the ones with weight of 20 move further when shot at (I used the shotgun).

The FPI's for FPSC had a command PLAYERTAKE, all these were built in. There is a lua script also available to pickup objects.
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Posted: 6th Oct 2017 13:56
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Quote: "There is a lua script also available to pickup objects."


Yes. You mean that one from the store right? If so, yes I have that script. But the fpsc one looks better.

Quote: "I think it's Physics Friction that decides how easy it is to push them, and physics weight that controls how fast they move once they've been dropped or thrown etc."


totally forgot about the friction... thank you. Will try that soon.
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Posted: 6th Oct 2017 13:59 Edited at: 6th Oct 2017 15:58
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yes friction is like the "slipping" or "sliding" of an object.

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Posted: 6th Oct 2017 17:59 Edited at: 6th Oct 2017 18:00
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Now I tested it and even with all settings set to 1, the barrel moves veeery slowly.

Is it not possible to make it behave like in the video?

If fpsc has better physics than gameguru, that would be a shame...

I made a small video.
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physics weight = 1
physics friction = 1

Did I make a mistake?



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Posted: 6th Oct 2017 18:16
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i'm not sure the physics work yet, mostly just when in water (you can adjust how high or low it floats), and for AI (the settings seem to be more effective when an AI walks into an object) - for the player it's kinda limited as you say.

would be nice to see full physics (such as rolling, bouncing, sliding etc) and to be able to grab the updated values for these physics (such as the new angle and positions).
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Posted: 6th Oct 2017 18:19 Edited at: 6th Oct 2017 18:20
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Quote: "for the player it's kinda limited as you say."


That's kind of a relief for me. okay. At least I didnt mess something up.

Personally I would be happy with physics like in fpsc. It looks really good in my opinion.
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Posted: 6th Oct 2017 18:57 Edited at: 6th Oct 2017 18:59
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The default weights, frictions and other attributes are not all correct. Or I should say could be improved.

Here is an example of some improvements I made. I also made a ball model for testing.



At first the barrel would just fall over and not roll. Same with the ball. So I really had to modify the physics information to get the desirable results. Keep in mind the ball keeps rolling intentionally as I was setting it up for a possible pingball game test.

Quote: "If fpsc has better physics than gameguru, that would be a shame..."


I don't think it does. Its just processing less information. So in a way its better optimized for it.
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Posted: 6th Oct 2017 19:02
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THAT Video xD nice

Quote: " don't think it does. Its just processing less information. So in a way its better optimized for it."


Good to know.

These improvements seem pretty nice.
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Posted: 6th Oct 2017 19:03
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Here is a script in the store Dvader worked on for picking up and dropping objects.

https://www.tgcstore.net/product/19812

in FPSC it was a default feature. Inspired by Half-Life, I believe.
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Posted: 6th Oct 2017 19:39
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Quote: "Here is a script in the store Dvader worked on for picking up and dropping objects."


I already own it but thanks.
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