To all the lucky devils that got a chance to play with the beta build of the new EBE I just had a few questions if you guys would be kind enough to answer (if you're allowed of course).

As per Lee's Twitch broadcasts the building area is pretty small, so are you able to put multiple build areas together to create an even larger structure or a large dungeon like maze?

Is there a limit to how many build areas you can have?

How many levels or floors can you create?

Will there be a random texture generated for each 'segment' just like FPSC?

Will there be different window shapes?

Will there be doors and not just doorways?

I think that's it really, thanks for your input

Absolutely we are allowed to this time 'round.

1. Yes, you can build multiple areas and put them together to your heart's content.

2. I don't know, but I've put several down, and if you find syncromesh's video, you will see he has a LOT! Keep in mind, we can't save our creations yet, so everything I or anyone else has done is a one shot and it's over.

3. As far as I know, the sky's the limit.

4. Random? Not as of yet. You can use a texture palette of 16 textures as of yet. I believe (I may be wrong) that it will eventually be 16 per structure

5. So far everything is blocks. Gotta make you own window open space and fill it with your own (or, of course, texture a solid object)

6. Just doorways as of yet. Gotta put your own in place, or again put a door texture on the solid object (this would be unusable of course)

The main question in my mind is: When is the blinking thing going to be released? I'm desperate to start work on my game.

But that's not a very helpful response and I applaud Jerry for his comprehensive reply.

Thank you for your response Jerry.



Sorry if I wasn't clear (I wrote this just before I went to bed). In the old FPSC you could add segments to your level that had all the same texture, but once you were in test game the segments would generate random elements on that texture, for example drain covers and wall cracks. I was wondering if that would make a return in the EBE maybe in the future.



I see, but maybe in the near future you could have 'door' segments that you could slot in place. You would only need 3 minimum to cover different genres (or perhaps you could just texture to how you want like the wall pieces?), Sci-Fi, Fantasy/medieval and modern/generic/WW2 etc.



Hopefully before next year, but I don't see this coming any sooner until Christmas or there about, I'm ok waiting if this means we get something of quality right out of the box. I didn't vote for EBE as I feel Game Guru stills needs a lot of work regarding performance and optimisation, but I am looking forward to seeing it myself since I am very interested in creating a dungeon crawler type game and creating large indoor environments at the moment is time consuming and performance heavy.

In the mean time Lee did say in his earlier post that the new assets would arrive before the EBE, so I guess this will hopefully keep a lot of people happy. I know I will be

From what I have seen so far, it looks good, just the lack of save makes it fairly useless. It will be useful for making all sorts, not just buildings, but suffers a little from it's use of basic blocks. Curves are not a feature at present. I'm not sure how much better a 16-bit section could look in comparison, but hopefully would improve matters.



It's really easy to make a door section, so really avoids the need for this. however you could probably make your own with the above mentioned section builder. It's manual, no editor, but you can make a section by using 1's and 0's in a text file. Takes me back to UDG's on the ZX Spectrum, lol. Those were the days, no graphic programs then, just paper and pen, graph paper if you were lucky and coding it in bit by bit with the poke command

Edit - You can make window shapes the same way, just not round ones.

Yah! EBE comes with Santa.

About doors and windows, it would be nice as Classic does, that way size would not be a problem.

3com

Anything would be nice at the moment .

Dave

Will this system be better than the Segments in FPSC?

yeah bring back POKE 36869,255. Ok that's the VIC-20, but they were fun days trying to fit everything into 3k ha

In my opinion yes ... you now have full control over what you create from textures to layout, indoors and outdoor construction ..
The concepts all there and works well .... In beta we all have pretty much the same list of things that need attention...
Once ready I think the Community will work wonders with it ..

The doors and windows fitting will simply depend on finding a cooperative artist to create them sized to the smallest grid dimensions of the EBE, and with my 'composite entity' magic (not first version) they will simply snap into their assigned holes and a functional building is born. We could argue the segment editor door system was 'quicker and easier' but it was limited with the habit of creating fixed block size structures and a CSG process that forced a lot of cups of tea on you.