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Posted: 25th May 2016 03:36 Edited at: 25th May 2016 03:40
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Ok I have been playing a lot with static lighting and my little " Bots on different levels trick " and wondered what I could do with it ...
I decided to put something together using BSP' WW2 packs and do a Wolfenstein thing ..

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Posted: 25th May 2016 05:08
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Looks like a finished, polished game, probably the best thing I have seen done with GG game play wise so far.
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Posted: 25th May 2016 07:00
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Brilliant! Very inspiring as to what can be done wIth lights and AI. Cheers.
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Posted: 25th May 2016 09:26 Edited at: 25th May 2016 09:27
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looking very nice and wolfensteinish
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Posted: 25th May 2016 12:39
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Looks good!! Like a modded early 2000's shooter where the models have been replaced with higher poly versions. Indeed kinda like an RTCW.

If you polish this and give it some visual overhalls this would make a pretty great addition to our demos list. winkwink



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Very nice for a GG game. Looks pretty smooth and considering GG's AI, works really well. Nice job.


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How do you do the bots on different levels? Do you have raised terrain outside?
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Das ist Wunderbar! good stuff-love WW2 style games....
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looks great , shame the A.I are not more aggressive .
but great work on the level looks brilliant.
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Posted: 25th May 2016 20:17
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Very cool
Quote: "f you polish this and give it some visual overhalls this would make a pretty great addition to our demos list. winkwink

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Have to agree

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Posted: 25th May 2016 20:35 Edited at: 27th Jul 2019 14:41
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This looks really cool. Do you think there's any chance of this idea turning into a full game?
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Posted: 25th May 2016 20:36 Edited at: 25th May 2016 23:08
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Thanks Guys Awesome Response ...Didn't expect some of those comments from users better at this than me ..

Ok how did I get bots on different levels and actually lordjulian was almost there
Its very easy and nothing special and would probably only be any good for the sort of thing I created

I started with a Bunker I made in Sketchup with 2 textures ..... Ok I'm no modeller and can only just load blender ...
so sketchup it was
I then created a plateau in GameGuru so I wouldn't dig into water .... I was kind of making and placing the bunker on the fly so I wasn't sure whether I would go up or down to lower levels ...

Once I placed the bunker level I " Locked it in place "
Then I carefully raised the terrain on the higher levels so it just touched the floor ..
No easy task but an effective cool result as you saw ....

This was the result in the editor

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Posted: 25th May 2016 20:43
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i like this a lot, and love the wwii guys, wonder if i can wing em into fantasy medieval, probably not unless was an evil dead 3 game. idea for people there.

anyway this looks great

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Posted: 25th May 2016 20:51
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Quote: "This looks really cool. Do you think there's any chance of this idea turning into a full game? "


That was the plan ..... Unfortunately my steam account has been hijacked and I have pretty much lost everything including GameGuru and all my DLC's
If I ever get it back then great ...If not then all I have is my current installation and running a shortcut from my exe ...

Once I have to reinstall windows then that's gone as well
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woah.. how does that happen?
and further more sorry to hear this synchromesh
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synchromesh, How did you cut out the ground and put the building in without water getting in the way? I guess Im saying, how did you turn off the water?
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Nice workaround. I know it's difficult because I just had a go at doing it and so far failed. Sorry to hear of the hijacking.
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Posted: 25th May 2016 21:46 Edited at: 25th May 2016 21:50
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I created a plateau ...Raised the Terrain first and used the flattening tool to spread it over a large area ....
So it would actually started life like this .... Then locked ... and the landscape " Raised" to each floor ....
Mine looks like is I dug into the ground down but as you raise and flatten it starts to look that way especially around the lowest area which was the first large room ..
And of course I'm fussy so I made it all look neat and tidy

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great if you need german vocals let me know. i'm good at "halt" and "stehenbleiben"
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Quote: "Once I have to reinstall windows then that's gone as well"

Bad new mate, sorry to listen that.
Steam say if your account be hitjacked, so your system could be compromised too.

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CAn't believe you had your steam account hijacked-hope you can get it resolved soon
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hello
This is very , very cool, only problem I see with this is that once game guru gets up dated we probably will use a different system of how computer people are made and work in a level, so this concept while good will only be a temporary but neat way to make a level, and this will not be used in the future or at least not used by very many, but I salute you on showing that game guru will be or is able to make a game . In fact I feel that if wolf and rolfy, and synchromesh, and a few others were to work with each other they might be able to make a decent game with current game guru engine. Synchromesh I was wondering if you going to put the ww2 models for download, I would love to have the german solders to play around with at least until we get some better models. I feel that we really should get some updated models for game guru while the old models are ok they are a little on the old side, and are starting to show there age. But old models are better than no models and I like to make demo levels if nothen else to put my ideas in to action and see how they work and I would like to try out the models to check out some of my level design ideas out. But looks like your having computer problems maybe after you get things sorted out you can put the models here for download. Hope things go better for you in future. Once again very very cool!!
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Quote: "only problem I see with this is that once game guru gets up dated we probably will use a different system of how computer people are made and work in a level,"


Hi Shivers ...
Yes this is true ...... It wont make a difference to the bunker model or any others we have created .... Whatever system Lee uses whether it be painting a path or a NavMesh system it will be a case of replacing characters either way for most of our maps .... This was just a trick really but it does give a great feeling walking up steps to find more enemies running around

Pretty much all the models are already available from BSP on the store ... Characters, Guns objects .... I just made the Bunker

https://en.tgcstore.net/artist/124126

And the good news is ..... I have my steam account back and all is well again
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Yay ! - glad you got your account back.....
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Glad to hear that.
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Nice one synchro!

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hello

Thanks for your reply, glad to hear you back up and running . Con't wait to see what you have next.
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If you need more information on the Glocke itself, including some (previously?) classified documents, PM me.

As some testers already have educated guessed, it plays its part in "Father's Island".
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Hi...

The terrain elevation fits perfectly. Now you just need "die Glocke". I had tinkered a few years time a Flugscheibe. Maybe fits into the concept.





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Posted: 30th May 2016 15:41 Edited at: 30th May 2016 15:47
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Quote: "Hi...

The terrain elevation fits perfectly. Now you just need "die Glocke". I had tinkered a few years time a Flugscheibe. Maybe fits into the concept. "


Thanks Lafette II
That's awesome ..... First it was a demo but I enjoyed it so much I was seriously considering continuing it as a project.
Now I'm even more keen

Thanks Erltov ...I may take you up on that
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Ok so I had a crack at creating my own variation of Die Glocke this afternoon
I don't think it turned out to bad so far ...

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Great work on the Game so far! But do you plan on adding your own custom Hud, as that can go along way to making your game stand out from the other GG games.
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Posted: 2nd Jun 2016 11:36 Edited at: 2nd Jun 2016 11:44
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Good work, really close to the real thing.

Except the Swastika bandoleer, it hadn't such a feature.

And don't forget it was filled with a Beryllium liquid and needed 3 x 8 inch power cables to be supplied.
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Quote: "Don't forget it was filled with a Beryllium liquid"


Thorium and Beryllium Peroxide, as well an unknown bluish mercury like metal liquid referred to as xerum 525.

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Exactly.
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Posted: 2nd Jun 2016 12:51 Edited at: 2nd Jun 2016 12:54
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@Erltov

I have created a more accurate version since .....
So your saying lose the Swastika and maybe the symbols on the lower band ?
Add more detail like nuts and joints maybe ? Feed back appreciated

@SS slothman .. Hopefully I will try to create all new huds etc ... Retro style bottom band maybe ?
what do you think ..

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awesome work indeed like the way you improvise to get this to work in guru. this is worth moving to the WIP thread.
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Taken the red out and added more detail .... Yes I think I will pop it to WIP Shortly ... Its kind of going that way

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Well, it's your work of fiction, you can create it however it pleases you

However, I would certainly take care of the power supply cords, as all sources describe them as actually being huge. Like, needing an own power plant nearby, huge.

What of the explanations of the purpose of the Glocke will you pursue in your game?
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@synchromesh

Yes! Something like this : http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/flashn00b/doomhud.png

But maybe without the head/face, I always thought that looked slightly odd having a head on your hud.
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Quote: "However, I would certainly take care of the power supply cords, as all sources describe them as actually being huge. Like, needing an own power plant nearby, huge.

What of the explanations of the purpose of the Glocke will you pursue in your game? "


The pic only really shows the model .... Not intended as its official location so I can add all that ..
To be honest its started to go from a demo to a project so no storyline yet ..... I was toying with the idea of starting in WW2 ... Then returning to the bunker in present day in a hunt for Die Glocke .... Giving the bunker a dark atmosphere ... loads of traps .. etc ....
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Speaking of a more modern day hunt through the bunker for the bell you may wish to check out the movie Outpost (2008) by parker and croft if you haven't seen it for some ideas. I just checked and it's no longer on streaming on netflix but they have the dvd if you have that service.
Perhaps you could have your main character fight through the bunker on a mission to destroy it then disappear in a blast when an officer activates the device. Flash forward to a soldier/merc who learns that's how his grandfather died in WW2 and gears up to finish the job.
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Quote: "In a seedy bar in a town ravaged by war, mysterious businessman Hunt hires ex-marine D.C. to assemble a crack team of ex-soldiers to protect him on a dangerous journey into no-man's land. To this gang of hardened warriors, battle-worn veterans and borderline criminals killing is just a job - and one they enjoy. Their mission - to scope out an old military bunker. It should be easy - 48 hours at the most. Lots of cash for little risk, or so he says. Once at the outpost, the men make a horrific discovery that turns their mission on its head - the scene of a bloody and gruesome series of experiments, carried out by the Nazis on their own soldiers during WWII. Amid the carnage, they find something even more disturbing - someone who's still alive. As war rages above ground, and a mysterious enemy emerges from the darkness below, D.C. and his men find themselves trapped in a claustrophobic and terrifying scenario. Their mission is no longer one of safe-guarding - it's one of survival.

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Was a pretty good film, very dark, it was very much less "scripted dialogue" and more "realistic dialogue" which is what I love in films.

It was what I was also about to suggest making a game about . Get some decent Nazi and scientist zombies and go crazy

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Many theory's on what Die Glocke was or if it even existed ...
The most extreme being a time machine but considering their technology of rockets and flight it was more likely an attempt at an anti gravity engine that would eventually fit into a ship .. Possibly a haunebu which kind of makes things all fit together ..

Either way theres plenty for a game plot here ...but its still early days and lots to do
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The Glocke DID exist. If it worked as intended, is another thing.
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Quote: "The Glocke DID exist. If it worked as intended, is another thing."


I would have to agree .... Totally feasible and probable considering what they were already developing plus there is far more evidence it did exist than didn't ....Like you say though ...whether it worked or not is another thing
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Ok I spent the day creating a new Haunebu ...I think it turned out pretty good



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Test Flight looks cool .. So far so good

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