Hello,

Iam sorry but GameGuru allow only MapEditor for no need script.

Later updates plan include this problem for fix ?

Because ı dont know programing language and I am deprived of most features.

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I disagree, you can make a game without writing one line of script. Granted it will be a very generic shooter with only default stuff, but it's still a game. I don't now what you expect, but even with an easy game maker, you really have to be able to code to do anything decent. That, or get scripts off the forums and such to cover your needs. Eventually, there will be more default scripts available to make things easier.

This sort of comment tends to irritate me. Look at GTA 5. It took years to make, even though they had an existing franchise and so probably a fair bit already done. Look at the end credits, they last longer than a feature film, just when you think they are finished some more scroll up. Game making is a tough job and anyone expecting to jump into GG or any other engine and turn out a decent complete game without coding a line is sadly mistaken.

I still think TGC opened a can of worms when labelling it as an Easy Game Maker. People expect miracles.

Scripting will be required as there is n0 way that we can script every situation that one could need for there games.

We provide basic scripts for examples and have twitch broadcasts where you can watch someone program and get an explanation of what, why, and how scripts can be made and edited with relative ease.

More scripts are available for use and learning in the script boards.

A game certainly can be made with this without you scripting a thing. It will look like everyone else's that does not change scripts.

I am removing your image on your original post.

Thank you.

Dear DVader
You before try other game maker software ?
Sorry but GameGuru very limited for no need script.

Its not broken or inaccurate ....You can make games easily but you have to put a little effort in ...
No "Make Call Of Duty " button I'm afraid ....
Users have done some very cool stuff out of the box or using the communities free assets and scripts to enhance it ..

Iam very sory but other game maker software include more features and no need upgrades.
I want other game maker software features for GameGuru. Because ı love GameGuru.
I send request very feature for feature vote. but not any displayed in list.
GameGuru provide limited features for no need programing language because ı tested other software.
Other game maker software provide more greater features for no need script.

"Later updates plan include this problem for fix ?" this messeage is correct.
I'm still waiting update for fix this problem.

@ kcan. Yes I've used several over the years. Of late I have been tinkering with GG, Gamemaker pro and Unreal. Gamemaker Pro compares well with GG for ease of use, although you really have to code to do a lot. It would still be harder to make a 3D shooter in it though. Unreal is way faster in game, but takes an age in other areas (7 hours to load in an example which consisted of a tiny island about 20 square foot at best. Not to mention waiting for shaders to compile ) Using Unreal actually made GG seem fast in this regard.

I agree GG is not Unreal and probably won't ever be quite as advanced, but it is certainly easier than it. I certainly won't be going back to Unreal unless I get a major upgrade.

OK, fine, and we are getting these feature added as we can. This is what the voting feature is for.

I will look into when the list will be changing to reflect what other suggestions other people and yourself have added.

But for now till the end of January, bug fixes will be on the programmers plates. Then it will be the DX11 addition followed by save load features and then AI Bots. In the mean time every thing that can be done by script will be added for users to make scripts to sell and give away Free to the community. Making Game Guru more functional.

Lee has discussed on twitch were he would like the properties of scripts and object to be in the widget for use. this will make filling in script variable and function more easy for people who choose not to look into customization or don't have the desire to learn what it takes to make any custom media.

Again there is no way that we can anticipate what you may what to say in that door script in the prompt section, but with notepad and a little effort, you can make it say what you want. As far as more complicated scripts, there are more examples then you can imaging in the script thread. All you have to do is try them out, open them and see what changing a value does for you.

You can always ask for help, somebody is always willing to lend a hand.

Keep in mind GameGuru is still in constant Development and has many updates to come that will make Game Creation even easier for beginners but the more advanced user expects more like scripting , model importation, character creation etc ...

What other engines have you used just out of interest ?

Thanks for iinterested. Please note my englisıh language no perfect.
I used to more than one game engine.

For example door automatically dipslay messeage (pres e key for open door) ı dont want open, copy, paste notepad for every door for change this display messeage. GameGuru continuous He compares me for script notpad (this annoying)
GameGuru actually provide more easy I'm trying to tell you.

Actually The requested in community all scripts include GameGuru for one click add. for game.

Good luck to you.

My suggestion I think analyze other game maker software and update add feature for tthis product.

Thank you for interested
Best Regards.

Why wish good luck ? I Found 15 Bug problem for GameGuru. GameGuru do not allow for create game with bug problems now. I waiting updates for create game.

https://forum.game-guru.com/thread/214061

Regards.

You never actually posted your requested specs in that thread ....you just said


We needed more info like ..Desktop or Laptop, memory , Graphics Card etc
If you can post those in "That" thread we may be able to assist further

Thank you for interested.

I have already given the necessary information
I explain that I've found problem in GameGuru.
And My some other gameguru user friends He was faced with the same problem.

For Example:

The 3D Game Maker Despite being a very old software allow create nice 3D games very easy engine one click create Call Of Duty, third person, car racer and more.. for no need ANY SCRIPT and better then GameGuru

Actually I want buy this software (the 3d game maker) but unfortunately it does not work in Windows 10

If you want such a software, here:
http://welcome.projectspark.com/

Thank you for interested
But I have to use GameGuru

The Lead programmer has stated that he intends to program every aspect of this engine, so if something is broken, we dont need to wait for third parties to fix there stuff, for ours to work.

Now on your PM to me. We intend to have an ease of use feature for getting scripts to work for non scripting people, just like we want a character creator for making your own character, without the knowledge on how to do so.

These features are being develop and thought threw to give the majority an easy way to achieve this, while giving the more seasoned and people who like to tinker more, the flexibility to do so. The easiest way is to open up the engine commands to Lua scripting and let the community play with them and come up with some astounding scripts. Many scripts are given away in the script board from generous users who take the time to figure out what they can do with it. They play a great role in adding functionality to this engine. The more that is opened up to them the more things we can do. Same with all the artists that supply free models and music and stuff, It enhances the engine and the community.

It is this balance that we are trying to achieve and make it so all can so as they please. There is a lot of capability under the hood of this engine, that right now can not be seen without making custom script and media.

So if this engine is not like any of the mentioned engines you have used, it is not intended to be. Most of what you want the developers want also. It is introducing that functionality into the engine and making it work at the right time with other added features, with out breaking the engine, that takes a bit of time.

No, you haven't. Win 10 64 bit says nothing about your system. I have Win 10, 64 bit on two machines (one a laptop, one a desktop). I have no such errors as the ones you describe. Game Guru is still in development. Accept it.



So you're using an unlicensed copy?

He is using a licenced copy. but ye his full specs would help

And this is what happens when people buy a 'complete game engine' only to find that it is in fact little more than a game that can be modded, and the friendly community has to be searched through to be found between the unpleasant comments on in the thread, just to remind thos people that probably dont ever visit any of the sales and marketing pages, there is no early access or alpha version being marketed, non of the advertising media or descriptions in the sales pitches quote how most of the features listed dont actually work correctly or at all, many features aren't even implemented.

I dont want another long winded explanation how you can do a or b in lua, since that has nothing to do with the game features, ive seen what some people have done in lua and honestly, i bow to those who have such creative zeal and hacktastical skills to allow them to create something the game is not designed to do.

If you want people to understand that thios is an incomplete early access product themj maybe some of the more important people in this community should spend more time asking TGC to accurately describe their product in the sales pitches instead of being quite rude and unfriendly to new users, and no, i'm not talking about me, i'm talking about all the other poor misguided users who dare ask questions here.

@kcan-please provide us with your PC specs, I run GameGuru with no problem on Windows 10.

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Just to clarify that both my licensed and unlicensed copies work perfectly well under windows 10 (i say perfectly, i mean within the confines of expected and acceptable behaviours/performance :p )

How about you stop making uneducated guesses about my qualifications and experiences, by answering your own questions with the assumptions that i have none at all, i'm stop being rude and annoying to people who do that. Also taking small parts out of context and answering back on those is not helpful.

Then tell me how I could help you

classy, write a whole post trolling me only to edit it so that i look like the [MOD_EDIT] when your admin friends come along, you and the uwer of the month should get a pad and settle down :p



this makes no sense at all, not in english at least

updates and upgrades are two very different things

Update to products are fixes to already implemented products, upgrades are at the very least major point releases, x.0 to x.5 perhaps or eve better 1.0 to 2.0.

The product is not finished, everyone here, even the idiots that attack me and others who ask questions consistently point out that the product is not finished, anybody who believes otherwise is .... detached at the very least :p

As for your comment.
Yes actually, i do, i have used many of them in the past, i have also used the tools that are used to mod games, and i know the difference between them both, tho you could probably argue that the lines have been getting closer to the point of crossover (source specifically comes to mind as a product that has advanced from mod tools to 'game engine', Unreal... without knowing the real history of the closed source proprietary engine, hard to really know when engine and mod tools merged into what we have today).
Game engines allow you to modify almost everything, add almost anything, and dont have restrictions on what you can have or do other than the engines own abilities for the most part, many game engines either come so complete that you dont need to modify the engine to make your game. Others come in source available versions so that you can even customise or add features to the engine as well as the game.


Also, my comment about lua was to make a point that using generic lua programming features to hack around the fact that there is not actual game function to interface to is not an acceptable substitute, scripting languages all have inherent problems with speed, some more than others, some are specifically restricted to operating within the games actual 'framerate' sometimes locked to a certain speed cycle, say 60x per second. I have no idea what gameguru uses, but it is clear that the scripts run at an incredibly slow speed compared to the engine, so i assume they are limited in some ways so that bad scripts cant kill the game (and yes, this is possible in many game engines if you break scripts.. like putting a database access script in to access a database with a million entries or one that links across a dozen tables looking for data for example)

Do I really have to Moderate posts .... Lets just stick to the topic .

Ive seen you help in other threads, when the game is an engine and complete in a year or so, and ready to make an actual game, i may well come back and request some gameguru specifc knowledge.

For the moment i'm tinkering around and asking questions where appropriate, the questions i'm composing right now should keep people busy for a while when i post them, maybe tomorrow

real actual game questions, not psych related rhetorical or hypothetical questions

ps: actually, i cant guarantee that the latter type might not pop up at some point... sorry :p

Ok seems like I do !!

Well; it appears that this thread has run its course, twice over now. If the OP wishes to gain further help on his matter, he can start a new thread and list his full PC Specs...as so many have asked him to do here. That is the best way to get started really.

As to Bloodknight; I truly wished that we would come to an understanding (as I laid out here). We allow debates here; healthy ones at that. But what we don't allow is openly arguing (and at times borderline berating) of TGC Staff, or Volunteer Moderators. We also do not allow swearing of any kind (jackass, is indeed a profane word in most circles), or constant name-calling of other members of the Community here. We have a PM system for that (although, if you want your PMs read and replied to; I would refrain from making disparaging remarks there as well). Just because a Moderator is showing as online; doesn't mean they're actually at their PC, or aren't handling another issue at the time. If you're on post moderation (as you are); you can expect to get your posts approved at sometime during the day (as have yours).

Now; the purpose of post moderation, is to point out to the Community Member that their behavior is (in some way or another) unacceptable. If that doesn't seem to work; we have other options (one of which I will be exercising shortly) available to us. It is, again, my sincere hope that you can return to us in better spirits...and on better terms.

Have a great day sir!