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Rafhalzer
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Posted: 13th Mar 2014 18:24
Hi all,



I already wrote about it on another thread (TGC Models and Media), but perhaps not everyone knows.



You can import characters from FPSC Model Packs to FPSC Reloaded.

How to do it? - step by step tutorial is attached.



You need ANIMER 2.2 FRR and MENDER 1.5

http://www.thegamecreators.com/?m=view_product&id=2316



If you have any questions, I will gladly answer!



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Posted: 14th Mar 2014 01:06
We need an impartial community pundit who owns ANIMER to test out this new version, and if the rumors are true we should soon see a flood of new characters in the Reloaded universe. It's what I like about this community, they don't wait for slow coach Lee, they just roll their sleeves up and do it themselves Class!

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Posted: 15th Mar 2014 05:04
I had to try adding a character to reload with Animer. I went through the steps that are outlined in Animer 2.2. I am happy to say it went in and worked without a problem. The thing that I was most interested to see was the FPS compared to the characters that come with reload. I am also happy to report the character that I imported had same if not better FPS. So I think I will get busy working on other characters.

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Posted: 22nd Mar 2014 21:02 Edited at: 22nd Mar 2014 21:26
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Here is a short video on some work I did with Animer 2.2. I cleared out the old animation then import the animations from a Reloaded character. Then I exported the character to Reload. If you want to use a lot of your old characters this is a great tool to have

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Posted: 23rd Mar 2014 12:16
A beautiful movie Dennis - congratulations!



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Posted: 23rd Mar 2014 14:57
Thanks Rafhalzer



I did not spend time to get the fire spot setup on the characters. That is my next thing I have to do is straighten that out. Then add more characters for my Reload inventory. So I have something to work with until packs start coming out.

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Posted: 23rd Mar 2014 18:15
Good luck Dennis, and I look forward to the next movie!



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Posted: 25th Mar 2014 03:28
Amazing stuff! I leave for one week and come back to a 500% increase in the number of Reloaded characters Can't wait to see what you convert next! I am back in the office now so will be chasing up all the artwork for the new Reloaded packs for you!

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Bummer !!

As much as I would love this I just don't have spare funds available at the moment
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Posted: 26th Mar 2014 00:29
@Rafhalzer still waiting to hear about the models i sent or will this program be just for converting old models?





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i'd be interested to know if the same method can be used to modify FPSC classic weapons to be FPSCR friendly.
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I'm working on it day and night!

I already know what I need to do.

To make these models compatible with FPSC-R, I have to change their structure.

Animer 2.2 can't do it. It's very difficult. If I manage to solve this problem, yo
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I haven't checked it yet.

Because I'm just a coder, I don't know exactly how to check the weapons.

I need instructions on how to put classic weapon into FPSCR, or we can do it this way:

send me 'HUD.x' file that doesn't work in FPSCR, I
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I added the Python from FPSC Classic to reload. There was not much problem in doing this. There where some people asking if you could use them. This is only one that I was testing. I am going to look into others

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I'm sure many users would be interested in how you have managed to import classic weapons. Good job by the way.



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Quote: "If I manage to solve this problem, you will be able to import your own models in version 2.3 of Animer."




Any word on this? I am interested in using some 3rd party .x character files, but it seems impossible with FPSCR right now. Whatever the magic structure is for using them in FPSCR, I have no clue, but no .x file I have tried so far will animate in the engine. So, if you manage to make it work I'd be all over getting my hands on Animer.
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Yes, I know what should be the structure of the animated .x character file, in order to work properly in FPSCR. Because it really inhibits the use of 3rd party characters in FPSCR, I don't think that the guys from TGC leave it unchanged, so I decided to wait until they improve it.

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Posted: 15th May 2014 02:10
We have a host of new LUA commands which will allow you to take full control of your animations imported, so V1.007 should liberate you somewhat!

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Posted: 22nd May 2014 16:25 Edited at: 22nd May 2014 16:26
I just purchased Animer, downloaded it and converted the female explorer from the tropical pack in less than twenty minutes! It works great, you just gotta get the fpe from a reloaded character and rewrite it for the new character (animations, weapons, etc.) figured that out quickly! I gotta go to work now, but when I get home I'm gonna get converting! Thanks Rafhalzer! Absolutely brilliant!

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Posted: 24th May 2014 07:31 Edited at: 24th May 2014 14:15
I just purchased Animer and am converting one of the zombie characters to see if it will work.



I'll let you know.



[Next Morning] - Epic Fail! Still crashes FPSCR after following a tutorial and attempting to convert a character. SIGH.



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World Class-which zombie are you trying to convert? I just tried the zombie cop from Model Pack 4 and it worked perfectly! Are you trying one from one of the Zombie Apocalypses?











Of course, everybody knows that in the real world zombies can't use firearms! Which is a good thing, since they're scary enough!

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I had a similar experience my first go around. make sure you have no typo's(one of my problems), make sure you use the Character directory. When is it crashing? Do you see anything or any error messages?





Here's 3 zombies from pack 57. Notice gun at feet on 2 ... need to correct that, but it's kind of funny seeing them shoot with their feet



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Posted: 25th May 2014 10:57
Excepting my .pdf tutorial, you can use video tutorial created by Super Clark:

http://fpscrforum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=208248&b=8



Zombie characters don't have a FIRESPOT limb. In FPSCR 1.006 characters must have FIRESPOT, then you don't forget to add a FIRESPOT as a child of a right hand in zombie characters. If you load a character without a FIRESPOT then FPSCR crashes.

If you do changes in .fpe file - don't forget to delete a .bin file first.

If you do changes in .x file - don't forget to delete a .dbo file first.



Good luck,

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I have added this FPSCR crash to the list to ensure custom characters are better supported.

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Congratulations Rafhalzer, this is a great piece of software, I purchased 2.2 a couple of days ago

and have converted some of my collection of FPS Characters. After a few goes I can now convert in

about ten minutes.



I have Windows 8/64 bit some times I get a "No Response Message", but I learned that the software is

still processing the file, and it ends up fine.



Thanks again for allowing me to use my large collection of regular FPSC Assets.



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@Rafhalzer : Email me the model that crashes to lee@thegamecreators.com, thanks!

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Posted: 19th Jun 2014 15:10 Edited at: 19th Jun 2014 15:26
Well done RafHalzer, excellent product. I am having fun converting old FPSC characters and importing BVH files, the Larien character now dances like a charm. Works very well and have followed the video tutorials, well done to everyone who put those together.

The mender 1.5 crashes occasionally but usually ok once I come out and go back into the software.



I look forward to future updates and improvements on the application.
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Using Mender and Animer I managed to convert some old FPSC characters for Reloaded. However, I noticed a couple of them seem to have their arms the wrong way round or something. I don't know how to fix it. I've tried using Animer but don't really know how to do it. Could someone please give me some pointers.

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Some of old FPSC characters are mirrored - for example left hand is called Bip01_R_Hand, then Animer imports the right hand animation to the left hand. To check it, load this character into Animer, select Bip01_R_Hand limb and rotate it - s
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Thanks! I'm glad that you are satisfied with Animer.

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I have been completely unable to get anything useable with this software. I bought it during the competition with the hopes of converting my many packs and other characters that are Dark Basic Pro friendly to FPSCR compatible format and could not get it to work at all.

Everything I tried crashed FPSCR to the point where I gave up and did something completely different.

It's likely not the software, just too many steps - too darn complex - to convert anything. I need a one or two button system. Load it in and convert then save it. Done.

Will this ever be possible?

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See my Converted Wrecking Crew !!

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@World Class Multimedia : The modules for you will be the Reloaded Character Creator and official character packs. Simply randomize or tweak your ideal character, then one button puts it in your level for you to test. Hopefully you won't have to wait too
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I'm curious how to get my own custom characters working in reloaded. Would I need to create bones/biped similar to the one from x9?

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When we release the Zombie Pack you will get a much better idea how you can get your characters animating and moving in the Reloaded engine. I have created new scripts which can control their rotation, movement, collision as well as making them attack and die too. It's not using the full AI system which requires thousands of animations, but it works great for custom characters with a handful of meaningful animations and behaviors. Keep your eye out for the word 'Zombie'

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Will it work with FragMOTION X files???

Will it work on non-character entities for importing custom animations???

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I purchased Animer to help me correct simple door-open animation issues coming out of MilkShape, However, in the long run I found that the problem was not the animation, but the Door.lua script. The default script is set so the player must get very close to the door before it prompts you to open by pressing the "E" key. I found that for curtain door designs the center point of the door model was too far from the actual door for the system to activate. I changed the less-than value (in the door.lua script) from the default (60 or 80?) to a few hundred, and everything worked fine without using Mender or Animer, plus in standing back a bit I can watch the door open.

However, I do plan to begin testing Animer on FPSC characters in the next few days.

A thought... In going through the FPSR animations (using Animer) understandably most of these animations are combat oriented. What about another set of animations for the same characters that are less combat oriented? That way we could re-texture and double purpose the existing characters???
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Quote: "Will it work with FragMOTION X files???"


It works for me.

Quote: "Will it work on non-character entities for importing custom animations???"


You can import animations for models which have similar
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Hey Lee, instead of every one waiting and waiting and then waiting more, just open the engine to use other formats! Easy, done! That will allow other characters to be used that are not the same thing re-skinned 7 times. Would allow custom characters like 4 legged critters and they all don't move the same all the time.

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Have been playing with Animer with good but somewhat mixed results.



Out of Character Pack 17 I went through the conversion process with Cleopatra and Pharaoh. Both converted and made it into FPSR using the Neutral LUA script. The male figure converted easily and looks great. The female experienced some mesh distortion around the neck, and the neck itself seems extended. Both characters follow the head and body turning script, and well as the standing still animnations. I have not tested beyond this.



The enclosed screen shots show both models in FPSR



Need some help dealing with the female distrotion... thanks

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@Go Devils,

Open it and save in Mender 2.0 BETA 5 (it's attached).
This version of Mender can fix it.

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Thanks Raf

I'll give it try later today

I'm assuming that once done I still use the newer version of Animer for the animation transfers





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@ Rafhalzer

OK, downloaded and installed Mender Beta, and it seemed to perform correctly. However, when I attempted to the load the resulting File into Animer, got the following error...

Runtime Error 7007
Object already exists at line 4877

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In the directory where you open the file in Animer, find '_char_acter_.dbo' or '_char_acter_.x' file and delete it.

If you have problems with Animer, close other running applications.

If this doesn't work, reinstall Animer.

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Hi Rafhalzer

OK, so good news and bad news. I was able to open the Cleopatra.x file in FPSR after going through Mender 2 Beta, and the physical distortions where repaired. That said, I have not been able to import any character into Animer (2.2 FFR Full Version). Still getting the same error code as above.

I have reinstalled both, same result Mender works / Animer Errors.
I uninstalled Mender 2, and reinstalled mender 1.5, and again nothing from Mender or just the base FPSC .X file will open in Animer???
I have deleted the Char_actor.dbo file which Animer seems to create before it crashes, but with no better result.

I'll keep working at it. Doesn't make sense since it worked before. Any further suggestions would be appreciated. Is there a later build of Animer than the one I have which I purchased in June?
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Hi Go Devils,

It's very strange because:
- it worked before,
- my computer like your is running on Windows 8.1, 8GB RAM,
- I have installed both Mender 1.5, Mender 2.0, Animer 2.2 and it works,
- this is the last build of Animer that runs on many computers.

About the error that you get: 'Object already exists at line 4877'
Animer wants to load a temporary object '_char_acter_.dbo' but can't do it because this object already exist.
Animer should load a temporary object when he loses content - if screen saver or energy saving system turned on.
It seems that Animer gets the false information from the system that he had lost content.

What you can try:
- install trial version of Animer and check it,
- if you run Animer, close all other applications including antivirus (use the task manager to see what is running),
- check if you have problems with other applications.

Let me know the results - your case is very interesting.

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Posted: 21st Jul 2014 19:48 Edited at: 22nd Jul 2014 16:34
Hi Rafhalzer



So nothing is working. here is what I tried...



I searched for "_char_acter_" files and found quite a few. I deleted them all.

I unistalled everything, turned off firewall and Defender, and reinstalled just Animer.

I also turned off my power saving settings

I then attempted to load a .X file with the same error every time. I uninstalled the full version and reinstalled the Trial version with the same result. Please note that Animer will not load any file, even if I use load without animations... same error????? Same even if I try to load the Masked FPSR character.



I have also attempted to install the program outside of the Windows Program (x86) folder on the C: Drive. I've found some of my old software will only run if it is outside this folder. However, Animer still throws the same error???



I'm out of ideas???



One additional note.. the only thing that has changed on my computer since this began was the install of the mender 2.0 beta. I have uninstalled it and everything else. Does Mender or Animer leave anything behind when uninstalled?





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