I imported the Mannequin you made from the animation pack. Although he kind of works he can be very erratic.
Not sure if its anything to do with it but once i add the behaviour he goes into a bit of a fit.
Any idea what i did wrong ?

Hey synchro! Oh yeah, I think remember someone else had a problem like this a few months back on github. Quick question: Did you generate the character and it's FPE through the GGM model importer, or did you import him into the CC and generate him that way? Just let me know and I'll look into it.

Hi mate thank for responding ..
I literally imported the .dbo into the Max importer ..
all setup and he looked good to go.
He does kind of work but not as solid as the CC ones. For what im working on right now he would be perfect.
In fact with a few texture colour variations i was toying with he would be the basis of the game if possible
I could not really compare with the Max .fpe's as they are all CC made by the looks of it.

Ah ok. I found the issue on github: https://github.com/TheGameCreators/GameGuruRepo/issues/4814#issuecomment-1652419327

So....basically we all discovered (including Lee) that characters won't work correctly when they are imported through the regular GGM model importer. This is unfortunate, but they MUST be generated through the CC, even if you are just importing a full character that is already rigged to the GGM skeleton such as the mannequin. The FPE's and even the DBO's themselves I think are a bit different when they are generated from the CC, which allows them to work correctly.

The github link I posted kind of shows how to do this, but this information is not in the PDF guide unfortunately. Give me a day or so and I'll post a short video showing how to do this. That is, assuming nothing has changed in the past 7 months

@Bond1
Thanks a lot its appreciated but in your own time please .. No mad rush at all.
I have plenty to be getting on with

@synchromesh Good news - that method still works, and it looks like Lee has added support for custom Character Creator folders, so that makes things a little easier to keep custom characters separate from stock characters.

Just unzip the attached folder to your Files/charactercreatorplus/parts folder. Then you'll have a new category called "Mannequin" in the character creator. The head, legs, and feet are "blank" parts like shown in the github link. The body selection contains 5 versions of the Mannequin that you can create characters from and assign behaviors. Check out the folder contents, hopefully it makes sense and you can use this as a template for other custom character categories. Lee had mentioned streamlining this process a bit more in that github link I posted, by making an "import full character" button, but it doesn't look like that has happened just yet.

Here is a video showing the mannequins in the CC and some gameplay:

WOW .. Thats fantastic !!
Thank you so much Bond1

This will really push my project forward.

The male mannequin was lonely, so like Dr. Frankenstein I made him a female companion. But seriously, I made a female proportioned mannequin to help distinguish between male and female animations in GGMAX's animation library, and gave her a pink color for extra clarity.

I'm sharing her FOR FREE here, you can unzip this to your CC library as detailed in my post above, and you will have a new CC category called "Mannequin Female". There are several color variations.

She would be excellent as a fembot in a scifi game, where she could act as a greeter or concierge to the player. Just give her a sultry robotic female voice to give instructions to the player.

Thank you.

Thank you mate

@Bond1
Thanks so much again
I know you hardly ever go on Discord so I thought I would post what I'm doing with them here for you to check out .
Still all W.I.P and subject to change but im putting them to good use.
Bit of a 90's vibe i think and having great fun creating it



The Intro



Arena 1



Arena 2

I love this aesthetic! That looks really slick and polished. I don't know if I would describe it as a 90's vibe though - it looks WAY better than any game I remember playing in the 90's

Maybe more of a F.E.A.R + Portal kind of vibe. I just love creepy, soulless industrial facility settings like this. Hope you develop this further.

Awesome work on the project @synchromesh

@Bond1

Not sure if this can be helped but I found a scenario where using these in the character creator may cause Max to crash. So calling it out here just in case so others can avoid this.

https://youtu.be/wpAuGwUrOI0

Yes I'm seeing the same error here. But it's not unique to these mannequins, I can also duplicate it using the Low Poly characters. For example, when I change the category to Zombie Male, modify a body part, then change the category to Low Poly, I will see the same "Runtime Error: 7018()"

It seems like the CC is looking for body parts from the previous category when switching to a new category. But you can workaround this by closing and restarting MAX after saving out a character. Just avoid switching character categories within the same GGMAX session when working with the CC. It appears to be a bug that was introduced when Lee added custom CC folders starting with the Low Poly characters.