I have just purchased GG Max and I am very happy with alpha 1 - especially the importer, it works great with my simple FBX models from Blender.
I cannot, however, run alpha 2 - the Wicked Engine version. I suspected I wouldn't be able to as, a day earlier, I download the Wicked Engine from the Windows App store. Wicked did not run on my Win 10 PC. I "Discoursed" the writer ( Turanszkij) who wasn't sure why it didn't run.

Can anybody please suggest why Wicked and GG Max would not get past the splash screen ? (with vrmode = 0)

I should point out that I am using a i5 PC with 8GB RAM but wit an old GTX750 Ti card. I know this card is well below spec but I think the software should load regardless - maybe I am wrong

Thank you

It should run.
Any errors or anything popping up ?

That video card is not going to cope at all. It may be best it didn't run. Two gigs of memory on one of those? Plus only 8 gig on your system. Already, that's a bit low spec I'd say. I have a 970GTX with 4 gig and 16 gig of memory and Wicked is still easy to slow down with just a couple of terrain objects plonked in.

Couldn't say why Wicked won't work, worked fine off Github for me. But Max is never going to run on your spec. I'd prepare for a new video card and if I were you, an upgrade to 16 gig main memory.

Oh I only ran the 32bit version of Wicked as well. That may work better for you possibly. It worked fine with the GG demo though, so still a good indicator of how Max will perform.

Thanks for the useful comments. With respect to graphics cards:

1. Is there any difference between AMD and Nvidia these days, I recall from the past that a certain physics engine (can't recall what it was) wouldn't run with AMD. Note: I am aware that GG Max uses Bullet Physics.
2. Can you suggest the cheapest graphics card that would give moderate performance with GG Max ?
3. The Wicked Engine specification says that it can use DirectX11 and 12. Why is GG Max using DirectX 11 and not 12 ?

Thank you.

I would think it would at least run ?
I got it going on this which is only an I3 with a HD Intel 4400 with only 3gig of Ram
Only 8-10 fps but it ran.

Hi synchro,
that was my thinking, even the writer of Wicked himself was baffled

Is all the stupid stuff ok , Windows up to date ( I assume your running Win10 ) DXFiles etc ?

Yes.
When Wicked Engine initially runs, you get a black cmd screen ("DOS") with various messages about shaders, physics engine, particles and then disappears - this all takes about 3 seconds !

Im sure I saw a post here from another user with that same problem …
I will have a dig around and see if he cured it ?

I'd wait until we have more specifics on Max. At the moment we can only tell you a 960 or higher should run it. I get about 100+ fps on the latest max demo with a 970 so that shows it is okay but not flying by any means.

When it comes to AMD and Nvidia you tend to find Nvidia is better supported software wise. AMD is normally behind in that regard. When Blender first introduced cycles it only worked with Cuda. Now it can run with OpenGL as well so AMD is now supported. Same with some video editing software etc.


PhysX. Another example of Nvidia having better support. Although I do believe they purchased that company to add it into their cards. Originally you had to have a separate physics card back before then!

Nvidia are always the best bet for compatibility. AMD cards can be faster, but always have that problem of some software not working with them.

I've heard the 1660 card is one of the best at the moment for speed and price, but not looked into it myself. Apparently comparable to a 1070 card, but a lot cheaper. Might be one to keep an eye on.

Is this what you are getting ?
Are you on a Laptop.
https://forum.game-guru.com/thread/221888#msg2631098

@ DVader, thanks for the comments, I checked the 1660 on Amazon and it's about £200 which seems affordable - I'll research further

@synchromesh, yes I get most of that message screen (with Wicked Engine IDE), mine crashes after the hair system message.
With, GG Max, I just get a white screen with Guru Max displayed in the top left window toolbar

Even though it's not working, I am sticking with Guru Max as it looks so promising. I enjoy the anticipation and the fact that the developers are accessible and open about what they are doing

Thanks

Does the VS debug window not give you any clues as to why Wicked isn't running directly? Just recompiled to 64 bit and it thankfully still works. If you have an onboard video as well as an actual card maybe it's trying to use the wrong one?

That was my line of thinking also but he still hasn't stated Laptop or Desktop.

PC - just a single card.

Returning to graphics cards, I can get a 1660 for £200. Do I need a 6 to 8 pin adaptor for the power ?
I just read the reviews at Amazon and someone spoke of such.
I have a 650W power supply but the spare leads are all 6 pin.

Thanks

When you find a video card you like, read up on the card and see what sort of power connection you need. Depending on your PC's power supply, it may already have it. So, crack open the case and check it to see.

Normally the extra 2 pins are removable for compatibility as older cards just use the 6 pin connector. It won't hurt trying a six pin connector as it SHOULD only let you connect it one way and I imagine the 1660 is not too power hungry compared to the 70 and 80 cards. At worst it will not give you a picture as it hasn't enough power. It shouldn't blow anything up

As to if it works, depends mainly on your PSU. A 650W should be fine as long as it isn't a cheap unit that can't deliver sustained loads. A decent ampage on the different rails is a good indicator of that. If you have any doubts then I recommend a new PSU with the modern GPU power connectors.

But if the site you are using is decent the CS people should be able to give you an answer, or at least point you to the things you will need.

Thanks for this information, I didn't realize this about the pins.