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GubbyBlips
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Posted: 24th Feb 2020 17:53
Was just curious about the pricing of GG MAX. I know it's on discount for
February @ 50%. But as times are very tight right now, I probably can't
get it in February, but hopefully in March. Didn't I see a page of progressive
prices for each month after that? And if so, will GG uphold and adhere to
that pricing system for the duration? Just checking- if anyone knows.
Thanks.
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synchromesh
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Posted: 24th Feb 2020 18:00
Quote: "Didn't I see a page of progressive prices for each month after that?"

Its right here , Sorry your in that position right now.
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Posted: 24th Feb 2020 20:00
TLDR: 5% less discount each month to a minimum of 25% off
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Posted: 26th Feb 2020 12:14
24,99 United States Dollar equals R378,63 South African Rand
That is what we have to pay from my side of the world and then its 50% off now,......... I am so depresses.
And if i cant order now then at September it would be R755,51 South African Rand
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Posted: 26th Feb 2020 14:52
Maybe there's going to be another big discount after MAX is released.
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Posted: 27th Feb 2020 10:45
Quote: "24,99 United States Dollar equals R378,63 South African Rand"

Out of interest, how much is that in real life terms - like is it a weeks pay or more or.....

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Posted: 27th Feb 2020 11:08 Edited at: 27th Feb 2020 11:11
They have a national minimum wage like we do in the UK, it's R20 per hour, or R3,500 per month depending on number of hours, if i remember right. So for anyone on their minimum wage it's the equivalent of 18hrs pay.

Considering in the UK at our minimum wage (£8.21) the price of it is about 3hrs on minimum wage, they get a really bad deal over there.

(edit: that's assuming the 50% discounted price, it's going to be a lot more without that)

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Posted: 27th Feb 2020 17:23
So minimum wage in the UK is according to what I just checked,
equal to $10.57 US. Not bad, as the US is still at $7.25, though
there are many local jurisdictions that have quite a bit higher.

Also it says UK = 1,524.52 EUR but is EUR still a thing?
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Posted: 27th Feb 2020 17:33
It's going up to £8.71 in April

Yes EUR is still a thing, the EU hasn't crumbled because the UK abandoned them, at least not yet

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Posted: 27th Feb 2020 18:38
@PCS.
You on Paypal?
I'll sell you me pre-purchase steam key when I get it - at the pre-release price. I'm getting it download anyway. . .
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Posted: 27th Feb 2020 20:42
@benjiboy - FPSC Reloaded was initially downloaded by the user. When it went on Steam (it became GG at that point) all future updates were then only available via Steam.
So if it works the same way as when GG went on Steam you will likely need your key....
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Posted: 27th Feb 2020 21:02
@PCS - check your messages

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Posted: 27th Feb 2020 21:11
Quote: "They have a national minimum wage like we do in the UK, it's R20 per hour, or R3,500 per month depending on number of hours, if i remember right. So for anyone on their minimum wage it's the equivalent of 18hrs pay.

Considering in the UK at our minimum wage (£8.21) the price of it is about 3hrs on minimum wage, they get a really bad deal over there.

(edit: that's assuming the 50% discounted price, it's going to be a lot more without that)"


Got nothing to do win min wage.it isn't like half the nation is earning min wage, and only applicable to certain jobs, and hours worked. The exchange rate is the problem, R14.00 to the dollar, some thing like R21.00 to the pound, even then it isn't an issue, it is basically the price of a night out in town, or a meal at an upmarket place.

The bigger issue is the target audience are mostly under age, or people not earning money yet.Min wage gives the false impression of earnings being low, unskilled workers like the rest of the world gets paid less, and that is what the min wage is targeting.

Exchange rate is the issue.

That said TGC has regional pricing and gameguru at full price is R171.00. Ordering in September will be about the same as now, and will a launch discount slightly cheaper even.Rather dumb to be ordering it now for SA guys as you will likely still be paying more then the launch price when launched on steam with regional pricing.

If you wondering with regards to regional pricing it is done specifically in areas of the world with high piracy, or high exchange rates. Russia is the cheapest region to buy steam keys for, but quite often russia steam keys are region locked as they are the cheapest keys in the world as well as to stop reselling of keys for profit.

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Posted: 27th Feb 2020 23:07 Edited at: 27th Feb 2020 23:08
Quote: "Got nothing to do win min wage"


I never said it did. The question that was asked was was how many days/weeks/months of work that price is over there. I used the minimum wage (yes i know it's a low figure but it's a base figure to give him an idea) to give him a rough answer. But it seems that if you're correct PCS exaggerated the price in R by at least double anyway, so the numbers i quote are also way out.

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Posted: 28th Feb 2020 00:11
Well regardless R370.00 or $25, is peanuts, about the price of 2/5 large pizza's. Almost full tank of fuel. Regional pricing a new pc game.A Good 10 year brandy.Just about buy a carton of smokes.

Just to give you some idea, renting a house in a decent area would be R10000 plus, Enough for 4mb ADSl uncapped account excluding line rental.40 gig Lte data contract a month.

Exchange rate is an issue, but nowhere near too exspensive.So honestly unless people complaining dont have a job, I dont see a problem, pricing is pretty good and will be even better once regional pricing is added.Regional pricing wise the region that currently pays the most with about 25% on average more the the base USD price is AUS and I think New zealand.
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TBH, the price is extremely low compared to all other alternatives, even the shady ones, except those which are *free*.
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@OldFlak. Nah. I bought a Steam key then decided having it on Steam would likely be a hinderence so ordered it as a download too. If PCS doesn't want it I'll find another good cause.
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ah cool - you be ok then

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HI all, i just want to say thank you to every one commenting on this Thread.
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Quote: "But it seems that if you're correct PCS exaggerated the price in R by at least double anyway, so the numbers i quote are also way out."

Google the exchange rate i did not exaggerate.
@benjiboy thanks for the offer , but i am sorted out .

Quote: "Well regardless R370.00 or $25, is peanuts, about the price of 2/5 large pizza's. Almost full tank of fuel. Regional pricing a new pc game.A Good 10 year brandy.Just about buy a carton of smokes."

Not every body has extra money to waste on luxuries

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Posted: 29th Feb 2020 22:35
Quote: "Not every body has extra money to waste on luxuries"

Yeah lets hope MAX becomes that luxury lol

In Australia 24.99 is just shy of $40.00 AU, about 10 bucks short of a good meal and coffee for the wifey and I on a night out.
But yeah, I agree that not everyone can afford things like that, some times we need time to save the pennies up for a bit.

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Lets hope September come quickly and it was all worth the wait.
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Posted: 8th Mar 2020 18:20
I can get Max anytime now, I have little concern against it except that
it sounds like a complete rebuild in coding. Am I wrong, and maybe
that's actually a good thing. And the alpha comes out in April?
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Posted: 8th Mar 2020 22:10
No - not a complete rebuild.
Many quirks apparently will likely remain: naming conventions for PBR for one.

The first release will be out in April. I guess it will have the features that are there already as shown in the Sneak Peaks.
Can't imagine new Renderer, new Terrain, or 64bit being added that soon, that will come between first release and September launch I would think.

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Posted: 10th Mar 2020 21:14
Hi again. Does anyone know whether if you order Classic GG on the
TGC website-- do you get a regular download without needing Steam?

Thanks. I know someone that wants to try it out, and there's a sale for
a couple days. But they don't want to get it through Steam. Also, there
isn't a "log- in" or anything to run it off the website - is there?
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Posted: 10th Mar 2020 21:29 Edited at: 10th Mar 2020 21:31
Na, GG Classic is Steam only. Ordering on TCG website just gets you a Steam Key.
Probably be same for MAX when it is released in September.

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Quote: "Probably be same for MAX when it is released in September."

Not for Max .. There will be a downloadable version or a Steam Version.
Like AppGameKit is.
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Posted: 11th Mar 2020 21:36
uuuhhh I preordered the download version from TGC.
But I want the steam version too... (easy updates)
Maybe have to buy it twice lol
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GubbyBlips
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Posted: 12th Mar 2020 00:31
Ught oh.
When they don't clarify the order on -site, this is when issues arise.
If I collaborate with some friends, we are looking at Godot or
Amazon Lumberyard, But I hope TGC can keep both version options
open to people, because I know some who don't want to work
through Steam.
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Posted: 12th Mar 2020 20:37
Both options will be available, direct download and through Steam in September If you want to switch from download to Steam, we can sort that for you.
GameGuru Classic will continue to be supported with bug fixes and functionality additions.

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Nope, its ok. Will buy it again on steam then...
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Posted: 14th Mar 2020 23:18
Quote: "Both options will be available, direct download and through Steam in September"

That is a huge plus for MAX! put that as a tagline Lee:
MAX no Steam required



Would be good to have DLC outside of Steam too.

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I hope I can buy ggx since the usd is going up through the skies in my country: C
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