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Posted: 29th Aug 2019 14:01
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Hi Guys,

How do I make a character like half transparent?
Like... you can see him but only just a little. I tried changing the shaders and adding transparent textures...

Nothing did work. Maybe someone has a solution?

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Posted: 29th Aug 2019 14:33
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Quote: "How do I make a character like half transparent?"

Remove his legs in blender

Sorry couldnt resist ..
Was this a character Lafette managed to make transparent ?
I havent tried it ..
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Quote: "Remove his legs in blender "




Interesting, hm yea so its possible for sure..

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Posted: 29th Aug 2019 16:28
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I managed to do it a while back, it wasn't as easy as just making the textures transparent or swtiching a shader, but i can't for the life of me remember how i did it.

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Posted: 29th Aug 2019 20:10
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Cant you just make it as a glass texture ?
Sort of thing ..
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Posted: 29th Aug 2019 20:58
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there has got to be a way.. I gotta try around more... will post when I know more

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Posted: 29th Aug 2019 23:47 Edited at: 29th Aug 2019 23:48
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I got it using this texture and the character_transparency.fx effect, you will find it in effects> reloaded folder.
Add an alpha channel to its texture, so that it is semi-transparent.
I use gimp, exported the texture as dds, BC3 / DXT5.
Transparency = 3 in the fpe file.
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Posted: 30th Aug 2019 02:26
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Oh that looks so cool … Great job !!
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Glad you like mate.
He is a qualified member of the horror pack.
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awesome ! I will try as soon as I can ! Thank you very much 3com!

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Posted: 30th Aug 2019 09:32
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where in the fpe do i have to set "Transparency = 3" ?

I cant seem to get it to work... my character isnt visible at all..

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Posted: 30th Aug 2019 09:53
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Mine:



Can you post some pic of your char?
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Posted: 30th Aug 2019 11:06
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This is pretty much how I make my glass textures …
I wasnt so far off after all ..
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Posted: 30th Aug 2019 11:16 Edited at: 30th Aug 2019 11:20
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a picture? He is invisble... not much to show there
I can show the .fpe if you want tho


Do you have normal map and specular map on that ghost?

edit: I attached the diffuse map I use

and the fle

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Your fpe is fine.
Your texture are too transparent, you need to get semi-transparent texture. otherwise the model becomes invisible.
Had you tried my texture?
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only at the start, let me try again

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@3com - does your ghost still work? I had partial transparency work with characters in the past, but now it's either full opacity or full tranpsarency. I tried your ghost fpe and texture with a skinned mesh and it was not transparent. I can only get partial transparency to work with unskinned meshes.
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Yes, he does, had you tried character_transparency.fx ?
Getting transparency in GG always is a paint.
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Yes, I used your fpe and texture with another model, and it didn't work. Weird. Is your ghost animated?
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Yes, he is animated, although it is a very basic animation, since his only mission is to appear suddenly in the corridors, and cross the walls.


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Would you please do me a favour, just for my peace of mind. Copy the masked soldier.x file from the characters folder into your folder with the ghost, and change model target in your ghost.fpe file from 'model = ghost3.X' to 'model = Masked Soldier.X', and see what you get. The attached picture is what I get.
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I'm going to try, back with the result, when done.
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I believe that at least lately GG relies on the textures assigned via X file instead of the textures declared in the fpe file.
Therefore you have to re-texturize the model, via 3ds max.
In another words, GG is using the original texture, and the grey scale that you are seeing, is only a result of: Transparency = 3 in the fpe file.
I am using the Uber soldier for the example.
Let me know the result.



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Posted: 4th Sep 2019 10:40 Edited at: 4th Sep 2019 10:42
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I don't think that's the issue. I changed your ghost texture, making the diffuse red, and then set the the bottom half of the alpha channel to an RGB of 100, keeping the top half the same as you had.
What version of GG are you using?
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Running July update version.
I've sent email to you.
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OK, the ghost you sent works, now I need to figure out why the others don't. Thanks 3com.
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Glad to help mate.
Even uber soldier does, it is too weird why the others does not.
Maybe a crazy idea, but i think when pbr system for everybody comes to GG, many old meshes, does not react positively.
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Quote: "OK, the ghost you sent works, now I need to figure out why the others don't."

Are they dead … Makes all the difference

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@syncromesh - this is mystifying to me, and I suspect that 3com is using dark magic of some sort.
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You have discovered me friend.

The truth is that this pack is a bit particular, I started it, but now he goes for free, there is even a model that refuses to be part of the pack and I have respected his decision, and others who do it without having been included ; You can verify this in the thread of the horror pack.

I've tried differents ways to get Ghost3 behaves as I want to, via script; not success, he want to go/appears/dissappears as/when he want to,
and for me is ok.
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Have to admit I have tried it myself with no success so far ?
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Posted: 5th Sep 2019 15:47 Edited at: 5th Sep 2019 15:50
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3com suggested I use the apbr_animwithtran.fx shader, and that worked. I'm pretty sure I tried it right in the beginning, but something else must have been wrong, so I never persisted.
Thanks 3com!
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Really glad you has sorted out.
After all we get something positive on this thread, it may help others with the same issue.
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really cool, thanks guys!!

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