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Posted: 7th Dec 2017 15:23
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I'm glad to note the actual time of day transitioning still works as intended. That part functions great.

But it appears in the PP the fog has gone back to being one that doesn't affect the sky again on it's sky shader. I'm not sure why that change would be made but I'd really prefer to not have my users have to modify their shaders to make it work. My bet is an older shader got converted by accident.

The other issue I'm running into is the rainbox by algostep ceased functioning. Probably another issue of a shader update given I think it uses a decal of some sort. I haven't had a chance to really dig into it.

The lighting system *MOSTLY* worked fine though I noticed some issue with the chase lights and the static map I used for the 'fire' light. So that's something.

MOSTLY it's a win. My code is functional in the new preview which is my most relevant concern; that all functions well. Beyond that it's mostly some shader updates.
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Posted: 7th Dec 2017 15:43 Edited at: 7th Dec 2017 15:44
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Quote: "given I think it uses a decal of some sort"


Yeah. it uses the x64 shader which if i remember right isn't a default shader, i'm sure it was included in the download (i'll have to try and find it again and see), so it might needs fixing.

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Posted: 7th Dec 2017 17:39
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Any literature you know of on how to correct that? I don't know how to modify shaders to make them DX11 compatible.
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Posted: 7th Dec 2017 18:31
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Posted: 7th Dec 2017 19:28
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Game Guru crashes for me even when I use the new DX11 updated animated shaders. animate 4 and 8 crash my computer pretty hardcode.
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Posted: 8th Dec 2017 10:12 Edited at: 8th Dec 2017 10:13
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Bolt Action Gaming:

The version i added to settings.fx , are fixed and working in DX11 , did you try that ?

#define ADDSKYBOXFOG

edit: remember you need forceloadtestgameshaders=1 , to make changes to settings.fx
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Posted: 8th Dec 2017 18:26
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Preben, thanks, I will try to test tonight.

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Posted: 9th Dec 2017 18:53 Edited at: 9th Dec 2017 18:56
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That fixes the sky fog issue however I don't understand why this was changed from 'general implementation' to a test setting that requires what will amount to extensive modification of settings (despite the ease of doing this, I guarantee you people will complain about it.)

Shrug. Now I need to dig into why algostep's effect_animate64 needs 'hlsl 5.0'. Any thoughts on that preben?

edit: found another issue. Appears the modification of global specular via Lua doesn't work at all anymore.

Was that something new?
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Posted: 10th Dec 2017 10:05
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Quote: "That fixes the sky fog issue however I don't understand why this was changed from 'general implementation' to a test setting that requires what will amount to extensive modification of settings (despite the ease of doing this, I guarantee you people will complain about it.)"


It has always been a setting you needed to activate , i have never put it on by default ? , perhaps you was using another shader ?

Quote: "Shrug. Now I need to dig into why algostep's effect_animate64 needs 'hlsl 5.0'. Any thoughts on that preben?"

You should be able to use the included decal shaders that are already converted to hlsl5.0 , but currently we cant use decals in the Public Preview they kind of crash the editor , so that will have to wait until we are able to test decals again



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Posted: 10th Dec 2017 16:09 Edited at: 10th Dec 2017 16:10
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Lee already fixed this but maybe forgot to include it
Fixed animate64.fx hlsl5.0 compatable included
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Posted: 10th Dec 2017 20:58
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And that certainly did the trick.

With respect to the sky thing, maybe I did a change and didn't remember it preben. I will have to bear that in mind for the future.
Thanks for the heads up and the assistance.
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Posted: 11th Dec 2017 02:25
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Last thing needed is to figure out this specularity thing. Anyone seen that the global specular slider appears to do literally nothing to objects in the world as well as terrain specularity? It *DOES* affect gun specularity though.
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Posted: 11th Dec 2017 03:04 Edited at: 11th Dec 2017 18:36
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I think you need the following textures for that slider to work now:

_color.dds
_gloss.dds
_metalness.dds
_normal.dds

As far as I know. The weapons seem to now have these additional textures. I think someone more experienced with the PBR stuff could better explain. I know there is a way to turn it off in the setup. But I doubt everyone will do that.
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Posted: 11th Dec 2017 14:21
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Ugh, that's a kick in the pants.
Basically ensures *ONLY* pbr assets are going to work with that slider then?
What about the droves of other assets that have specularity mapping but aren't PBR compliant?
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Preben or Lee will need to confirm. As I'm not 100% on this.
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Posted: 16th Jan 2018 22:20
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I made a few updates a few weeks ago to the updated copies that *should* fix them on PP. But it still doesn't work for specular, unfortunately. I will email Lee to see what he knows with respect to non-functioning specularity.
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i was wondering also for pbr to work on ebe does the textures have to be in the same setup gloss.dds metal.dds ect ive been using spec maps i can get it to look good once im done building a model in ebe but as soon as you save it the speculiar shiny
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I think specular, for the most part is controlled individually from the object panel now since the PBR release? Otherwise i think the only way for Global Specular to work is by having PBR textures included.
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I've added some compatibility components to the time of day and weather system, as well as some updates that fix things such as time, white colored textures via high specular value (50x normal!) for snow, and PP components as mentioned (specifically custom PP specific FPE's for the weather decals).

Users are recommended to re-update to get the most stable version.
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I had purchased this pack on 15 March 2018. It works great with the official public release. However, when I tried it with "preview edition" there is no animation of the rain, snow, nor dust. I place a start marker on the map, place a trigger box on top of the start marker and assign the start rain script and then I place the "RainBoxV4 for public preview" lua script on top of that. The rain is frozen. That would be great if I wanted time to be frozen.

Is this and engine problem? Am I missing something? Or is there something you will need to do?
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Just saw this now - for more immediate responses please use the tgcstore.net ticketing system

I'm not sure why it wouldn't work for you.
I'll verify it on my machine but the last time I tested it was before the latest public preview. So maybe something changed?
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I tried posting before and just a little while ago. It doesn't show up. So, I'm back here. After the upgrade to the new version ending in "21" I now get an error message. See attached. I also validated the files. No joy.

Here are the top lines of the fpe files for both PP and original:

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So I haven't forgotten about you.
I just didn't have time to look at it, too many obligations hitting at the same time.

I'll put together a fix in a day or so but for now if you want it to work modify the FPE file to use this line:
effect = effectbank\reloaded\decal_animate64.fx

instead of
effect = effectbank\reloaded\effect_animate64.fx
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Posted: 26th Mar 2018 03:39
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Thanks B.A.G. I keep forgetting that not everybody is retired. Forgive my impatience. Of course, life's obligations takes precedence, I do know that and I do try to be patient . You might think I'm making snide remarks in other posts but that's just my weird sense of humour overtaking me.

I did try that straight away. However, It doesn't work like the entity shader. See attached images. I'm not sure where this shader came from, but there are many models that use this shader (the same file name anyway). Is it Prebens? Everything that uses that shader will crash the same. For example Pirate Myke's water fountain or Lafette's waterfall.

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Posted: 26th Mar 2018 03:43
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Oh boy. That shader may cause problems in dx11 version. I will test it right away.
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Thanks PM. I didn't see that when I tested it.

Will look into it more and return back to this as soon as I have more.
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I tried the rainbox with the newest PP version for April 17. Still doesn't work. When I load the map that it comes with, it crashes with the attached image of the dialog box for DirectX. Hopefully you can figure it out as I was really looking forward to this feature (rain) and of course, I hope I didn't waste my money.
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Posted: 18th Apr 2018 15:59
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If the system is public, maybe you can add a link into a new issue report on Issues Tracker (https://github.com/TheGameCreators/GameGuruRepo/issues) and a step by step what is wrong and we can take a closer look.
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Posted: 19th Apr 2018 02:43
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@Flatlander:
The map is holding onto info from the old shader.
If you use the modify the FPE file to use this line:
effect = effectbank\reloaded\decal_animate64.fx shader and put it on a new map, does it still crash for you?

The black is the shadow from the mesh. In the fpe file set this statement there to this:
castshadow = -1

Reload the snowbox or rainbox, which ever you are using and re test.
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Posted: 20th Apr 2018 17:28
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Sounds like I need to release a PP map to go with it. I'll see if I can't do that this weekend.
Definitely try Myke's advice though. I've tested it on my machine and so long as the rainbox FPE file uses the new shader for PP it should work fine.
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Posted: 22nd Apr 2018 03:51 Edited at: 22nd Apr 2018 03:52
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Thanks BAG, things are working OK now. So maybe you should wait until it's close to being finished to save you some time. At least with some help it's working.

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To fix that fpe file or that script . . .
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