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Posted: 16th Nov 2017 15:33 Edited at: 16th Nov 2017 15:39
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Ok something different ..
My new project started today is to turn this old Commodore C16 into a Windows 10 PC
With all the Commodore Games, Functions of course
Then Sell It.

1... Stripped, cleaned and reassembled the Keyboard
2... Got the Keyboard Adapter and a DVD Drive ( Although not sure if its worth fitting the DVD )
3... Ordered the main board and a few other options ..
4... Ordered a Dremel ( Gonna need one )

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Posted: 16th Nov 2017 15:45
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Sound interesting I will be waiting for updates as you progress with this project .

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Posted: 16th Nov 2017 16:10
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love this sort of thing... as granada says lots of updates please.
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Posted: 16th Nov 2017 17:53 Edited at: 16th Nov 2017 17:55
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Ok so its every step then if your really interested ...
First problem is the keyboard .. It has to be converted to a USB
Luckily there is a board available to convert Commodore keyboards to USB all I need to do is pick the right connection and setup the config Jumpers as shown in the pic below ..



At the moment the power source for the Keyboard is from the Standard USB cable but I'm going to need an internal source from the motherboard I decide to use .... I had to solder a new 4 pin connection to the converter board behind the power connector ... Luckily the holes are already there so I will be able to connect a USB cable from Mainboard to converter.



In order to test it I just plug the cable into the C16 converter and then into my PC which I can report works perfectly
So right now I have made a standalone USB Keyboard from a Commodore C16 ... That's Step 1 of the process ...

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Posted: 16th Nov 2017 18:55
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Looks like this could take a while,I like this sort of thing.allways liked making something from parts,goes back to mo modelling days I sapos.

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Posted: 16th Nov 2017 19:07 Edited at: 16th Nov 2017 19:24
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Quote: "Looks like this could take a while,"

As soon as the motherboard arrives I would expect it to be up and running the same day
Until then I will work on a games Launcher with a C16 theme to it ..
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Posted: 16th Nov 2017 19:40
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What are you going to do about cooling .

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Posted: 16th Nov 2017 20:04 Edited at: 16th Nov 2017 20:23
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I never thought an old man like me would say this, but this is so... COOL

Also don't know if you seen this is coming out next March. from Argos

Sorry can't seem to get a link for you to click on.

You can just search Argos site for :- Mini Commodore 64 Pre-Order Console
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Posted: 16th Nov 2017 22:34 Edited at: 17th Nov 2017 00:17
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Quote: "What are you going to do about cooling ."

Havent quite made up my mind which board I'm going to use yet I have a couple coming but both are obviously ITX low profile.
Whichever I use will happily run the commodore emulation software and games along with Windows 10 and many up to date games.... But I'm not expecting High Gaming Performance here .... it will probably be around the same speeds as a reasonable laptop .. Adding fans wont be an issue if I need to though

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Quote: "Yes I Pledged on the original GO64 Indiegogo kickstarter so I'm already inline for my Mini C64 "


That's the way to do it. not like me, took me 4 weeks to get hold of a Nintendo SNES Classic Mini console .
Looking forward to hearing what you think of your Mini C64 when you get your hands on one.
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Posted: 18th Nov 2017 17:02 Edited at: 18th Nov 2017 17:35
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Ok so the parts arrived about an hour ago ( Including my Dremel tool )
I don't really have time to start much this evening as m still playing with the C16 Launcher which I will show you later..
but I couldn't resist checking it all out ... Here's all the components I decided on so far ...



This is kind of the layout I had in mind but still not sure about the DVD drive .. Layout 1



Most Laptops no longer come with DVD as it seems USB ones are so cheap now..
However my reasoning is simply the motherboard will be easier to fit right in the middle and give plenty of room for a little extra cooling. Here's Layout 2

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Posted: 19th Nov 2017 01:35
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It looks like it was made for the job,you no what they say if it looks right it is right .

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Posted: 19th Nov 2017 07:13
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Looking good. Nice mother board, very low profile and fits very well. We don't seem to use our DVD drives much these days, most is downloads, and it would be easier like no cutting of the case for the DVD slot. The last graphic card I installed a few weeks ago I spent half an hour looking for the drives on the disc that came with it, only to find there was none, had to download them. That's a first not to have the drivers on the disc.

Thanks for the update.

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Posted: 19th Nov 2017 16:25 Edited at: 19th Nov 2017 16:30
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Ok its Sunday and my Virgin internet was down when I woke up this morning only came back an hour or so ago so I have some nice updates for you starting with chopping out the back plate ... Having masked it off I went to town with the Dremel and chopped away



Much easier and less messy that I thought however on the downside the dremel tool died right at the end
Cheap Amazon one I guess but there was no strain at all and it really cut it well ...



Next thing was securing the Main Board so I took the easy route and just drilled some holes for some posts.
Screwed them in the holes and fitted the board ..



So now the Main boards in securely and I'm pretty happy with the results



Finally to give it Power ........ ITS ALIVE !! .............. Now to get Windows installed ...

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Posted: 20th Nov 2017 01:48 Edited at: 20th Nov 2017 01:49
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And to finish this evening up and running with Windows 10 ..
Next thing really is to just clean up a few things, add the launcher and games, make a few adjustments and box it up

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Posted: 20th Nov 2017 03:31 Edited at: 20th Nov 2017 03:31
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...and I felt knowledgable just 2 days ago for building my hardware into a smaller tower Well, at least my gal still thinks me some kind of tech wiz.

But seriuosly! I can only concur with 25 watts. This is seriously cool! ...and strangely enough, at least to me, it looks kinda modern.
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Nice going synchromesh. Minus 5 points for using a commodore though, although you'd probably have a hell of a time trying to fit the components into a 48K zx spectrum
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Next project, turning a zx81 into a gaming PC

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WOW! it's almost done, I was thinking a week or two
Great set of pictures thanks for sharing
Lucky for me my first computer was a Dragon 32, should think I would get an ATX board in one of them no problem
Great work synchromesh... pat on your back from me.
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Posted: 20th Nov 2017 14:51 Edited at: 20th Nov 2017 14:58
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Thanks for all the comments guys .. Its all been great fun
Just some final pics showing the Emulation ... Perhaps an Amiga to PC next ... I have a couple in the attic

Commodore 16 in its native format ..



Then the more familiar Commodore 64



Last Ninja ( one of my old time favorites )



Lets try the Amiga workbench ( Amiga OS 3.9 )



A little bit of " The Chaos Engine "



A Little bit of Classic " Alien Breed "



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Been trying to get a PC version of the classic alien breed, was one of my favourite games on the amiga, the modern versions are horrible

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Quote: "Been trying to get a PC version of the classic alien breed, was one of my favourite games on the amiga, the modern versions are horrible "

I could probably create an Amiga standalone version for you if that's any good
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Nice job and inspirational! Looks cool. I have an Intel compute stick that I was planning on using with a small monitor in the kitchen that I think might be adequate for running the low-res graphics of some of these old systems. It would fit in any case. I have 3 TI-99/4as in a closet along with an old NES console and a Sega Genesis console. I just might have to get to work myself.
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Turn my back for a while and it’s done very nice clean job,shouldn’t have any trouble selling this.

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