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Belidos
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Posted: 22nd Oct 2017 09:27 Edited at: 22nd Oct 2017 09:33
Quote: "Hi BELIDOS ,
to make it even simpler to find,,,,you can go HERE

http://www.s2powered.com/copiasito/?page_id=1657

The other page you had to click on FREE TRIAL and go to the NEXT page and choose it.

AS you can see Earthling45 d/led it...and I just tried it right now.

Thx

UNIRD12B"


Weird. clicking free trial didn't go to another page with the free trial on, it sent me to the buy page on the S2 homepage.

Doesn't really matter, I own it already on steam, just wanted to be sure for others

Quote: "I already have it. Have for at least a couple years. Crashed a lot, I remember, but that was some time ago that messed with it. The only other engine I really like aside from GG is UE4. I have a much longer-term project in mind for that, and although I've learned a lot so far with regards to Blueprint, etc, I have much much further to go. Thanks though."


Quote: "S2 Engine is not a stable piece of software. It crashes a lot. Its an unusual engine to compare to. Especially since we do not have any demos to test with to compare FPS and graphics."


Quote: "Well i had a go and had to restart after trying a testgame, i could not close it.
Then i tried to publish an executable and it hang after that, the executable does not run, it starts but that is as far as it goes."


Yup, S2 Engine is very unstable, it's good, but it is very prone to crashes, a lot of people have major issues with it, it's one of the main reasons I don't use it often, which is a shame because it is a good engine.

Quote: " Ironically that hallway scene with the lamp I actually thought that was a game guru scene at first. I can tell you for a fact that whats in that scene alone, shadows, lighting and etc all possible right now in GG."


Quote: "And there you have 99% of the answer ... Its not just GameGuru its the capabilities of the user as well
I cannot get amazing scenes like that either ... Impressive stuff Teabone !!"


Exactly what I've been trying to say all along. There's nothing in that hallway scene we can't do already, except the directional light on the wall, but that can be tricked by baking static lights close to the wall. Absolutely agree, Teabones work in GameGuru is always great

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Posted: 22nd Oct 2017 10:51
There has been a couple of games put out with S2

http://www.profenix.com/eng/games.html


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Posted: 22nd Oct 2017 11:36 Edited at: 22nd Oct 2017 11:41
Hmmm Wasn't overly impressed though ... Noticed some glitching and slowdown issues ...
I have seen our community and GameGuru do a lot better

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LeeBamber
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Posted: 23rd Oct 2017 12:14
@ALL : Could someone follow the above S2 advice and select a default stock scene and save out as an EXE and attach here. I can then run my side by side tests on my own system to get an idea of load times, in-game performance and visuals, e.t.c. Thanks!
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Posted: 23rd Oct 2017 13:57 Edited at: 23rd Oct 2017 14:00
Hi Lee
This is a sample scene from S2 ,i loaded it into the editor and saved it out as a exe .Not tried it out yet .

https://www.dropbox.com/s/skxwkb4vxkl2zs8/TestProject.zip?dl=0
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Posted: 23rd Oct 2017 14:10
Quote: "This is a sample scene from S2 ,i loaded it into the editor and saved it out as a exe .Not tried it out yet ."


I didn't fair well with it. It launched in the wrong resolution and wouldn't exit with Esc or any other key that I hit. Task manager was so large on the screen that open apps weren't visible and the view space wasn't adjustable. Had to reboot from task manger to exit. It looked like it would look nice in the proper resolution, though!
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Posted: 23rd Oct 2017 14:22
Just looked in the folder S2 configuration file you can play with,busy with photoshop at the moment ,i will try it later

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Posted: 23rd Oct 2017 14:37
Ah, ok, I'm at work now so can't mess with it for another 10 hours or so. Thanks!
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LeeBamber
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Posted: 24th Oct 2017 15:20
@granada : Thanks for that, much appreciated!
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Posted: 24th Oct 2017 18:30
You can create already nice scenes with GG, it’s already a good stable engine.
Here’re some DX9 screenshots from a project I started earlier this year (waiting now for the DX11 update, l hope more reflections will be possible . )

I’ll not change the engine in the near future. Maybe a few more bug fixes, few more fps and I’m happy.
Old school FPS fan, DOOM!!! Why GG not working on my AMIGA 500?

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Posted: 25th Oct 2017 01:10
That looks stunning MooKay
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Posted: 25th Oct 2017 03:10
Quote: " l hope more reflections will be possible . )"


They should be. Those are some beautiful scenes, btw!
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Posted: 25th Oct 2017 11:34 Edited at: 25th Oct 2017 11:35
those swamp renders are very good, the only thing i dont like in GG are the pine trees, too unrealistics, of course i know we can import our own models or from others engines
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Posted: 25th Oct 2017 11:45 Edited at: 25th Oct 2017 11:46
I hope with the new DX11update they will release some HQ models, or a new DLC. For good models I would pay a good price
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Posted: 25th Oct 2017 12:00 Edited at: 25th Oct 2017 12:08
im working on HQ docks/city models right now
all modular, you can create huge cities with those differents parts, the most logn work is texturize every prop :p

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Posted: 25th Oct 2017 12:36
They look nice
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Posted: 25th Oct 2017 12:44
Hi MooKai!

Those screenshots of your game looks awesome! Can't wait for your game to be released!
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Posted: 25th Oct 2017 15:31
Even when using stock trees and vegetation, you can render cool scenes in GameGuru. I think GG is an awesome engine allready.

I recently played around a bit with some of the stock foliage and took some screenies. All I did was to de-saturate the textures a bit to give the scenery a more blended look.

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Posted: 25th Oct 2017 16:45
Quote: "those swamp renders are very good, the only thing i dont like in GG are the pine trees, too unrealistics, of course i know we can import our own models or from others engines "


Just make sure you read up on the licences for the assets developed for or on other engines before you import them. Especially if you intent to use them commercially in GG.
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Posted: 25th Oct 2017 17:27 Edited at: 25th Oct 2017 17:46
another view from inside/outside, i started working on details...

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Posted: 25th Oct 2017 18:07
At the moment, I use only assets from the tgc store.
Maybe in the future I will buy some other ones, if we can import fbx files without problems...
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Posted: 26th Oct 2017 07:59 Edited at: 26th Oct 2017 08:14
for the windows glasses transparents do i need to have some special thickness for my 3d model?
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Posted: 26th Oct 2017 08:16
I usually do glass panels at 2mm thickness with an alpha of 130
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Posted: 26th Oct 2017 08:23
my glass is 1mm or a little bit more hope is not a problem
Belidos
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Posted: 26th Oct 2017 08:44
Quote: "my glass is 1mm or a little bit more hope is not a problem "


You may have issues in the current live build, at the moment gameguru is fumy with transparency, what tends to happen unless you have set it up perfectly is that the transparent object occludes some objects behind it under certain conditions. However, so far in the current Beta i haven't been able to find any of these problems, and it seems to be easier to get transparency to work, so when he DX11 update is released there shouldn't be any transparency issue.

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Posted: 26th Oct 2017 11:03 Edited at: 26th Oct 2017 11:05
here are the details of my window glass, it is good or not for transparency?
it that doesnt work well i supose i have to make the windows opaque.

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Posted: 26th Oct 2017 11:41
I like those work in progress pics,i did a whole village on stilts a long time back.i can already see yours will be better .

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Posted: 26th Oct 2017 11:46
i work on low poly models, and try to add ltos of details, this is just a "test" im going to try to import all those models inside GG to see how the engine can handle my models and the textures, with the new light/pbr system

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