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DVader
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Posted: 13th May 2017 17:33 Edited at: 19th May 2017 19:38
Hi everyone. Here is the final version of RPGMark I first showed in my benchmark thread. I've added some extra scenery and tweaked a few things here and there. I've had to remove a couple of the people from it unfortunately, because for some reason they keep breaking It seems there are still some issues with AI and following paths. So, after numerous attempts I have removed them completely for this version.

AMD Ryzen 1700
16GB Memory
Nvidia 970GTX video card
Win 10

RPGMark 2807
Resolution 1920x1080
Run time 4m 9s

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4qIchrlXIZrRmw5UldRc0xDc1k

Scores so far.

Windows 10 Pro
GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
AMD FX (tm)-9590 Eight-core Processor
31.96 GB RAM
1920x1080,60 Hz

RPGMark 2292
Resolution 1920x1080
Run time 5m 05

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i7 7700 (3.6GHz)
16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3200MHz (2x8GB)
8GB NVidia Geforce GTX1070 FTW Gaming - DVI, HDMI, 3x DP
2TB Seagate Firecuda 3.5" SSHD
Corsair 850W RMx Modular 80 Plus Gold PSU

RPGMark 7797 ???? A lot higher than I would expect even with the above spec.
Resolution 1920 x 1080
Run Time 1:29

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Intel i5-4670K CPU @ 3.40GHz
8gb Ram
Windows 7 64bit
Nvidia GeForce GTX 670

bench 1797 (good PC)
time 6.19
resolution ???

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Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4160 @ 3,60GHz.
8GB Ram.
NVidia GeForce GTX 750.
Acer 24" Monitors x 2 @ 1920 x 1080.
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit.

RPGMark 1756
Resolution 1920x1080
Run time 6:38

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Windows 7 Professional 64
Intel Desktop Board DX58OG
Intel i7 960 @3.20GHz
24GB Ram
AMD XFX Radeon RX 480 8GB GDDR5

Results
First Run
RPGMark 3315
Run Time 3:31

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CPU ??
gtx780M
memory ???

RPG Mark: 2203
Resolution 1920x1080

Run time 5:17

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Operating System: Windows 10 64bit
CPU: Cherry Trail Z8300 14nm 1.44GHz 64-bit Quad core
GPU: Intel Gen 8 Graphics
RAM: 2GB DDR3L
ROM: eMMC 32GB

Run Time 52 mins
Score = 220

@ 1366x768


SPECS: Q6600 CPU. Nvidia 660GTX. 8 Gig Memory. Win 7.
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Posted: 13th May 2017 18:10
Downloading now
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Posted: 13th May 2017 21:28 Edited at: 13th May 2017 21:30
medium settings 1885
Highest settings 1938

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Win 7 b4

Runtime 6.01 on highest settings, on medium it was actually about 30 seconds slower.
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Posted: 13th May 2017 21:37
I downloaded it and when I ran it said I was missing some Steam files (dll) . I copied them into RPGMARK and the test ran . I did get some static screens with color graphics when loading but during test everything had no 'color' , just the sky did . It was probably on my end somewhere but I ran it and got a score of 3591 LOW graphic settings and 2479 on medium graphic settings .

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Posted: 14th May 2017 16:30
@ Earthling45, I altered the setup to highest only. So the settings will make no difference at all. However changing them mid benchmark will of course. To get a proper run you need to run it and leave it till the next run. I'll add that you can not run it twice from the same load at present. You will have all sort sort of cam issues if you try. Still there may be slight fluctuations in score since adding in the extra life (scenery)to it. The butterflies are semi-random so sometime they will not be in the same place. They are always active so I hoped that would work out the same overall.

@Lance. Works fine here. Seems to work for Earthling as well, so no idea what the issue is there. Perhaps a new bug in GG. I noticed an error the first time I ran it, but after that it seemed to run fine (no changes just ran it again). I've seen a similar issue before where it insisted to try to get some files from the a drive I don't have. When you ran it a second time that error seemed to vanish. The latter errors on a totally different standalone game.

Perhaps after all my tweaks and such, weird map glitching errors caused by the GG update and also the camera issues from the same said update - It may be worse than the original version. I've put way more time and effort into it in the end than I anticipated, including purchasing some extra media for it to boot. I can't spend any more time on this now and will have to get back to my AGK project again. I'll add that the editor runs so slow with this map it is barely use-able, so again another reason I just can't do any more, I can't bring myself to work on it any further. Imagine on top of the GG issues, having to watch that intro maybe a hundred times or more, checking if the butterflies are working okay at all points etc. I've got to the point where I just can't look at it now.

Hopefully it will work for most people as is.


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Posted: 14th May 2017 17:16 Edited at: 14th May 2017 17:16
Yes it run fine without problems on my end.
After the first run i've changed the settings to highest and started another run, as you say there was indead an issue so i've closed it and started it again to do a second run

Thanks for your clarification on the settings DVader.
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Posted: 14th May 2017 17:55
Just ran it,worked with this version .

RPGMark 2292
Resolution 1920x1080
Run time 5m 05

High graphic settings .

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Belidos
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Posted: 14th May 2017 18:29 Edited at: 14th May 2017 18:30
i7 7700 (3.6GHz)
16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3200MHz (2x8GB)
8GB NVidia Geforce GTX1070 FTW Gaming - DVI, HDMI, 3x DP
2TB Seagate Firecuda 3.5" SSHD
Corsair 850W RMx Modular 80 Plus Gold PSU

RPGMark 7797
Resolution 1920 x 1080
Run Time 1:29

Next weekend when I can get around to setting up the i5 again i'll test on that too.

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Posted: 14th May 2017 21:01 Edited at: 14th May 2017 21:12
I tried another download and this time it works .
bench 1797 (good PC)
time 6.19
vsync =1

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Posted: 14th May 2017 21:47
Good demonstration there of the single thread power of the i7 with fast RAM, what mobo are you using with that bad boy Belidos?

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Posted: 14th May 2017 22:16 Edited at: 14th May 2017 22:18
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I think the high benchmark might a glitch though, I've ran through it a few times since and it's not gone over 6000 since, it averages out about 5600.

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Posted: 14th May 2017 22:23
RPGMark 7797
Resolution 1920 x 1080
Run Time 1:29

Is that on High graphic settings .that is a realy good score,nice machine you have there .

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Posted: 14th May 2017 22:39 Edited at: 14th May 2017 22:39
Quote: "Is that on High graphic settings .that is a realy good score,nice machine you have there"


There are only high settings, as DVader said earlier he's scripted it to be high settings only no matter what you choose on the graphics options. However as I said one post up I think the high score was a glitch because subsequent tests came out between 5500 and 5800.

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Posted: 14th May 2017 22:47 Edited at: 15th May 2017 00:37
Quote: "There are only high settings, as DVader said earlier he's scripted it to be high settings only no matter what you choose on the graphics options. However as I said one post up I think the high score was a glitch because subsequent tests came out between 5500 and 5800"


That's weird ,my first run was higher.i changed the options in the menue to higher and my second run was lower ( the menus said mid settings)

Edit just ran again

Quote: "There are only high settings"


RPGMark 2192
Resolution 1920x1080
Run time 5m 05

So its about the same

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Posted: 15th May 2017 02:25
DVader, am i allowed to share your link in a blog?
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Posted: 15th May 2017 02:37
Lol, perhaps a new PC is in order

RPGMark 1756
Resolution 1920x1080
Run time 6:38

Great job DVader

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Posted: 15th May 2017 03:10 Edited at: 15th May 2017 03:10
My Uber PC laptop scored 2122 in 5:29 @ 1920x1080. A bit less than the early version, but everything was running smoothly. Nice job! When I was done, I went on an Easter egg hunt. I din't find any, and only one character besides the giant ant put up a fight, lol.
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Posted: 15th May 2017 07:55
Quote: "That's weird ,my first run was higher.i changed the options in the menue to higher and my second run was lower ( the menus said mid settings)"


There will be variations between runs due to resources being used on the PC by windows and other software, a widows service might kick in during some of the runs, then not kick in during others, and make it seem like the settings are different.

Also, if you run it, then at the end go back to the main menu run it again, you will get a lower score because the resource usage doesn't always get cleared after completing it. To get a more accurate comparison for each run, run it from scratch for each test.

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Posted: 15th May 2017 16:58
Thanks everyone. I get slight variations in scores as well, but it generally is about the same. As Belidos says there are other things that can affect it. A week or so ago I wondered why it was getting a much slower result. It was running a virus scan in the background

Considering my spanking brand new Ryzen 1700 scores a mere 2807 shows how fast Intels are in comparison. It's not overclocked at all and actually it's probably underclocked as it's running at 3ghz. I disabled the boost in the bios as it was throwing a lot more heat out when I was testing it with Planet Coaster (even more demanding than GG, but very fast though). With other games and apps I haven't noticed any speed issues, so unless I need it will leave it running cool

Quote: "DVader, am i allowed to share your link in a blog?"


Sure. I'm not sure how many people will be able to download it all at once though. I imagine Google drive has some bandwidth limitations. You could always point people to my youtube channel as well There's several useful GG videos on there, plus other less useful, but possibly interesting to GG fans.

https://www.youtube.com/user/RetroGamebloke


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AMD XFX Radeon RX 480 8GB GDDR5

Results
First Run
3315
3:31
Second Run
3343
3:29
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Posted: 16th May 2017 18:05
Quote: "Sure. I'm not sure how many people will be able to download it all at once though. I imagine Google drive has some bandwidth limitations. You could always point people to my youtube channel as well There's several useful GG videos on there, plus other less useful, but possibly interesting to GG fans.

https://www.youtube.com/user/RetroGamebloke"


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Posted: 17th May 2017 18:03
Quote: "When I was done, I went on an Easter egg hunt. I din't find any, and only one character besides the giant ant put up a fight, lol"


I was going to put in a few more things like, having the fights that you see on the way have a winner etc, but in the end had to settle for just the bug attacking you at the end. The merchant should talk to you as well, but nothing else. If the map ran at a decent speed and didn't run out of memory every 6 runs or so, I'd add more.

Probably best to leave as is now though I think. I might do something else when GG gets the DX11 update


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Posted: 17th May 2017 18:14
DVader:

I think this is a good 'basic' test . When DX12 is up and running in GG we can tell (see) if it makes a difference or not .

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Posted: 18th May 2017 00:32
Quote: "When DX12 is up and running in GG we can tell (see) if it makes a difference or not .
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lol, was that a typo or are you "the most patient man in the world"?
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I'm a patient person . I just hope it doesn't take the rest of the year to get DX12 running in GG

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Quote: " I just hope it doesn't take the rest of the year to get DX12 running in GG"


It's going to take a lot longer than that, lol! Be patient, though, I think 2022 will bring some real surprises! DX14, perhaps? <sarcasm, fyi
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For the records
RPG Mark: 2203 @ 1920x1080 , running time 5:17 on the gtx780M, first run, with the new RPGMark test
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Posted: 18th May 2017 07:26
Quote: "I just hope it doesn't take the rest of the year to get DX12 running in GG"


It will probably take at least 5 years before that happens, IF it ever does, we're only just getting DX11 which has been out 6 years now.

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Posted: 18th May 2017 21:52
I'm never going to post the fastest so how about a gold star for the slowest!

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Operating System: Windows 10 64bit
CPU: Cherry Trail Z8300 14nm 1.44GHz 64-bit Quad core
GPU: Intel Gen 8 Graphics
RAM: 2GB DDR3L
ROM: eMMC 32GB

Run Time 52 mins
Score = 220

@ 1366x768

Not sure what happen in those 52 mins but watching the screen at 3 fps put me to sleep.

@DVader Nice computer you have there, beat me to it getting an Ryzen.
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Posted: 19th May 2017 15:41
I wished we could leave postings not pertaining to RPGMark results out of this here thread, so, it will keep its main purpose: let people know where they are standing with their gear, and whether it's worthwhile doing deeper performance analyses.

There are several other threads discussing DX1* aspects.

@25-WATTS ; hahaaaaa I still have an Acer 5738DG, and we two are gonna teach you what a real slow RPGMark performer is, rest assured. Just wait 3-4 hours for the result!
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Posted: 19th May 2017 19:28
Damn' ACER bitch betrayed me !

RPGMark: 296
Runtime 39:14 @ 1366x768

Notebook: ACER DG 7538
Ram: 4GB
CPU: INTEL Core2Duo P7540 @2.13 GHz
GPU ATI 4570 HD


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Posted: 20th May 2017 21:14
Nice try yrkoon, you had me worried for a second!

Gave my main Game Guru computer a run at this.

Windows 7 Pro
8 GB Ram
Intel G2020 @ 2.9Ghz
GTX 750 Ti 2GB

RPGMark 1620
Runtime 7.11 @ 1920x1080

Lots of good info in this thread, like reliquia score with the same card but a i3 shows me what I would gain with a CPU swap to an i3.
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Posted: 29th May 2017 07:52
Quote: "Nice computer you have there, beat me to it getting an Ryzen."


I've still to properly test it, but it seems fairly good so far. It's not that much faster with GG unfortunately, it seems a little slow to load and the editor gets very slow indeed compared to before. Of course I am getting faster frame rates over all than with my 12 year old Intel. It runs every other game I have tested no problems though, Skyrim being quite a bit smoother now than with my old Q6600 machine. It's running at around 60 fps on 2K res, so not too bad at all really. It was nice opening up task manager and seeing 16 cores though

There's some seriously slow scores in the last few tests there! Not gonna be the best GG dev machines It sounds more like they are rendering the scenes!


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Quote: "
There's some seriously slow scores in the last few tests there! Not gonna be the best GG dev machines It sounds more like they are rendering the scenes!"


Quite so, DVader, these are mainly supplied to show people what the bottom line is or can be.

I think my ATI 4570 HD was termed "HiPerformance with up to 2306 MB shared Video memory" in its time.
Actually, it runs the stereoscopic samples that came with it quite well in the given resolution, but , as shown, it is insufficient for GG.

Nevertheless, someone may come up with a like GPU (especially, as at least this GPU had been renamed 3 times by ATI / AMD).
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