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rayroman
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Posted: 25th Jan 2017 01:13
Hello folks. I recently purchased GameGuru and on the demo games as well as a simple level that I created I am getting 5 FPS or less. Here is my laptop set-up. Did I mess up and buy a program for a laptop that just won't cut it for this? Thanks

CPUIntel Pentium N3530
Cores 4
Threads 4
Name Intel Pentium N3530
Code Name Bay Trail-M
Package Socket 1170 BGA
Technology 22nm
Specification Intel Pentium CPU N3530 @ 2.16GHz
Family 6
Extended Family 6
Model 7
Extended Model 37
Stepping 8
Revision C0
Instructions MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, Intel 64, NX, VMX
Virtualization Supported, Enabled
Hyperthreading Not supported
Bus Speed 83.3 MHz
Stock Core Speed 2166 MHz

Graphic Card Integrated (a little less thank 2G shared video memory)
Intel HD Graphics
Manufacturer Intel
Model HD Graphics
Device ID 8086-0F31
Revision F
Subvendor Dell (1028)
Current Performance Level Level 0
Current GPU Clock 860 MHz
Driver version 10.18.10.4358

RAM MEMMemory
Type DDR3
Size 8192 MBytes
DRAM Frequency 666.7 MHz
CAS# Latency (CL) 8 clocks
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD) 8 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 8 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 20 clocks
Command Rate (CR) 1T
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Pirate Myke
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Posted: 25th Jan 2017 01:34
https://forum.game-guru.com/thread/212251

Seems like it is on the minimum side on the GPU.

Should run, but not going to be a speed demon. You may have to keep levels small right now.
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz, 2400 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s), 8gb RAM, Nvidia gtx660, Windows 7 Pro 64bit, Screen resolution 1680 x 1050.

rayroman
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Posted: 25th Jan 2017 01:43
Pirate Myke, thanks, but even with one level and just a few hills and nothing elseI still get 5fps. Maybe I need to tweak my setting. Thanks
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Pirate Myke
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Posted: 25th Jan 2017 02:56
Could you post a screen shot of your tab tab screen while in test game?
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SpaceWurm
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Posted: 25th Jan 2017 07:36 Edited at: 27th Jul 2019 14:29
Unfortunately that setup will struggle a lot.
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Posted: 25th Jan 2017 08:34
I concur, I'd say that you won't get anywhere near 30 fps unless you develop a very restrictive game on the lowest settings.



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LeeBamber
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Posted: 25th Jan 2017 10:31
Here is the minimum specification for GameGuru in terms of graphics horsepower: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GT+440

See if you can find out what type of Intel HD Graphics GPU you have and compare them PassMark scores. If it falls well short, and you have used GameGuru for less than 2 hours and within two weeks of purchase you can get a refund from Steam
PC SPECS: Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit, Intel Core i7-5930K (PASSMARK:13645), NVIDIA Geforce GTX 980 GPU (PASSMARK:9762) , 32GB RAM

Earthling45
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Posted: 25th Jan 2017 11:27 Edited at: 25th Jan 2017 11:28
Quote: "Did I mess up and buy a program for a laptop that just won't cut it for this?"


Yes and no.

For this laptop, yes absolutely, even an I3 sandybridge with HD graphics 4000 would easily mean a boost in performance in comparison with the N3530.

This processor however with a tdp of only 7.5 watt is a lot more friendly on the battery.

No, because you won't have this laptop forever.
3com
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Posted: 25th Jan 2017 15:03
Quote: "Intel HD Graphics"

Is not the best card for GG. I've Lenovo laptop with integrate intel hd graphics, does not expect to get more tan 30 fps as mentioned above, anyways from time to time you can get picks (50,60 fps), but no often.

Anyway 5 fps looks like Mike pointed above, most likely you has to decrease or even off, your "post prossesing" values (bloom,dof,etc)

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Laptop: Lenovo - Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 1005M @ 1.90GHz

OS: Windows 10 (64) - Ram: 4 gb - Hd: 283 gb - Video card: Intel(R) HD Graphics

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Posted: 22nd Feb 2017 21:31
Weak laptop. If you really want to have fun, I advise you to buy at least 2016 NEW ASUS 15.6 "FULL HD 1080P HIGH PERFORMANCE PREMIUM LAPTOP FLAGSHIP EDITION. This laptop will give you strength
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Posted: 22nd Feb 2017 21:40 Edited at: 22nd Feb 2017 21:45
https://forum.game-guru.com/thread/212251

Compare your specs with the specs on this link.

Then check your benchmark here:

https://http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/Fgpu_list.php

Appears all is fine except for the onboard graphics which comes in as passmark 590. Is that the only GPU in the machine?
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Posted: 23rd Feb 2017 01:48
Quote: "Weak laptop. If you really want to have fun, I advise you to buy at least 2016 NEW ASUS 15.6 "FULL HD 1080P HIGH PERFORMANCE PREMIUM LAPTOP FLAGSHIP EDITION. This laptop will give you strength"


In honesty, all laptops are weak. You are always better off with a desktop PC for performance by a massive margin. I can never understand why people buy a laptop when they want to play games or anything other than basic use. Certainly developing any software, your always going to be better off with a desktop.

Obviously, this advice is no good if you have what you have, but if you can get another machine, you will always get a better system if you get a desktop. Laptops are for people who are never in one place for long or people who have no clue or interest in PC's. Unless you have no choice (travel or a picky partner) get a desktop.

I'm not a fan of laptops. The performance is bad, the input is bad and the screen is bad. I wouldn't buy one for a bet, let alone any serious use.


SPECS: Q6600 CPU. Nvidia 660GTX. 8 Gig Memory. Win 7.
Jerry Tremble
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Posted: 23rd Feb 2017 01:54
Or pony up the money and buy a gaming laptop. They ain't cheap! Desktop is always the better choice for performance vs. cost + ease of upgrading.
Desktop: i7 4770@3.4Ghz (passmark 9809), 12GB RAM, Win 10/64, GeForce GTX 1080 (passmark 12006), 1TB SSD, 1TB HDD; Laptop: i7 4800MQ@2.7Ghz, 16GB RAM, Win 10/64, GeForce GTX870M , 1TB SSD.
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