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Posted: 19th Mar 2016 23:11
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hi there. did anyone have this problem that the weapons are not shown? i can collect the colt 1911 or shotgun but the player doesn't hold them and can not shoot.
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Posted: 20th Mar 2016 02:40
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Not one I have seen before ...Is this in test game or standalone ?
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Posted: 20th Mar 2016 22:06
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in testgame and i have this in every map i play
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Posted: 21st Mar 2016 13:03
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Hmm, not seeing this behavior either. Are the weapons in the gamecore/guns/modern folders?
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Posted: 22nd Mar 2016 19:20
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Nuncio:

Did the new update fix your weapons issue?
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Posted: 23rd Mar 2016 06:12
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i updated yesterday but it still does not work. i can use the new fantasy knife and it works but i can't use the pistolt colt 1911 or the shotgun. when i want to set it as players weapon in the starting point properties i can not select the modern weapons. something is really wrong here and i have this in ALL maps.
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Posted: 23rd Mar 2016 07:55
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Can you mail me one of your .fpm files ... see if it happens to me with your map .
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Posted: 12th Jun 2016 17:35
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hi again. my problem didn't go away after updating to the newest version. what's wrong? when i pick up a weapon it's away and all enemies who carry one of the stock weapons (1911, magnum, shotgun, uzi, sniper, rpg) do not attack me at all. i have screenshots:

i can press e to collect weapon but when i got it it's invisible and not working.

i will send you an example @synchromesh
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Posted: 12th Jun 2016 17:50
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Parental control is deactivated?
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Posted: 12th Jun 2016 17:57 Edited at: 12th Jun 2016 17:59
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i just looked at it, yes it's off. i had this error for months now.
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Posted: 3rd Jul 2016 00:40
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update 03.07.2016
i have verified files over steam and i got 8808 files that were deleted and replaced.
i opened a new map, placed the stock weapons (colt1911, shotgun, uzi, magnum) and a start marker and started the testgame. didn't work!
i can pick up the weapon but the player does not have it and so i can't use it.

the modern weapons by BSP all work without a problem. also the knife does work and some of the medieval weapons but not all of them.

i have uninstalled GG via steam and reinstalled it. it still does not work.

i sent a map i made with the settings above (new map, weapons etc.) to synchromesh and it was working without a problem. so the problem seems to be on my machine.

i can't remember that i installed or changed something significantly in the last months.

can you please help me, i cannot work with GG anymore.
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Posted: 12th Jul 2016 05:00
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But you also DID remove all .bin and .dbo files ? Just for completeness ...
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Posted: 20th Jul 2016 23:30
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i deleted some (but not all) but does that also affect me when i start a new map and just place a gun and a start marker? btw it still does not work. i can not use game guru since a few weeks at all exept i build a level without weapons and bad guys
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Posted: 21st Jul 2016 16:47
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Well, of course, as the dbo files are located alongside the model-, x- and fpe files and are taken from there .
stop GG completely
try searching for .dbo in the weapons folder.
mark and delete them
do the same for .bin file there
Run GG
report what happens
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Posted: 21st Jul 2016 23:25
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okay i deleted the dbo files from the weapons folder, there were no bin files. i restarted my machine, ran game guru. i placed some weapons on a new map, start marker, testplay. it still does not work.
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Posted: 22nd Jul 2016 02:08 Edited at: 22nd Jul 2016 02:09
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This is really strange but the fault must be at your end ....
The demo map you sent me I picked up the weapons and could see them instantly without a problem ?

A question ....
What happens when you give the player a weapon in the start marker ?
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Posted: 22nd Jul 2016 06:17
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the same, the player has no weapon. there is no possible way i can see the gun in the hand of the player. i have this problem for a long time now and i don't want to become angry all the time anymore.
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Posted: 22nd Jul 2016 07:04 Edited at: 22nd Jul 2016 07:09
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Ok, Nuncio, so we at least have eliminated one possible source of the problem.

Question 1 : does the problem occur with each and any weapon (including melee weapons) ?

Question 2 : if you actually build a standalone game from a NEWLY CREATED map, does the standalone game show the same (mis-)behaviour ?
If so, I suggest you make a small map with only the player and one or two weapons, build the standalone and give me download link to the
standalone game, PLUS a copy of the map only (you know I know how to analyse them) , too, please.

Alternative orders : Please ...
* rename your current GameGuru Top level Folder - in order to get almost all you have now out of the way easily.
* then have Game Guru installed by steam from scratch to the original destination (probably an overnight job, given the number of models you own)
* do NOT add anything (such as free or paid models/scripts/skies/sounds/anything from other sources) that does not come down from steam with the installation
* Do NOT copy maps or anything from the renamed maps folder of our heretofore GameGuru folders under their new "root" directory.
* Do NOT rearrange/rename directories within the new Game Guru
* CREATE a small map with a few weapons, run it in testmode and report the results.
* Also build a standalone game employing this map and report the results.

* If the map runs ok in the "new" Game Guru, COPY the map to the respective path in the renamed old GameGuru
* run the "old" GameGuru.exe in the renamed old GG Path directly by doubleclicking on it
* load the map
* if the weapon files had been relocated from their standard (relative ) path in the "old" GG directory structure by you, GG won't find them and let you know.
* in that case, REPLICATE the standard path for the weapon from the new GG in the old GG directory and copy only the files pertaining to that weapon
from "new" to old-reinstitued-standard-weapons path and see whether "old" GG can use it now (it should!).
* let us know the results.
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Posted: 22nd Jul 2016 09:24
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Quote: "Question 1 : does the problem occur with each and any weapon (including melee weapons) ?"

only the game guru stock weapons like colt 1911, magnum, rpg, shotgun, uzi & grenades.
the knife does work and most of the medieval weapons.

i have already uninstalled and deleted all game guru and reinstalled it again and also i have done the same with a complete new folder in a new place, it all does not work.

thank you for this list, i will take a look at it when i'm home. this will be my last try. thank you a lot!!
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Posted: 22nd Jul 2016 15:50 Edited at: 22nd Jul 2016 15:53
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If you did all that, and the stock weapons are living in their exact standard directory, i.e
.\Steam\SteamApps\common\Game Guru\Files\entitybank\Weapons\ ,
I'm at a loss what is going wrong.

Since other weapons are working, it is not a binary (.exe or .dll) problem,
and if the maps work with syncromesh's standard installation right away, it is not a path problem,
and if it doesn't work with your fresh standard installation, it is not a script problem .... not much left to look at.
sorry having to say that, but then it is a waste of time working through my list.
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Posted: 22nd Jul 2016 23:05
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Quote: "only the game guru stock weapons like colt 1911, magnum, rpg, shotgun, uzi & grenades.
the knife does work and most of the medieval weapons."


Ok this is different from your original post .... You said there the colt and shotgun didn't work ?
Are you saying its only custom and store bought weapons that don't show up ?
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Posted: 23rd Jul 2016 02:18
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synchromesh, i think he's being consistent, as I asked off him with what weapons the problem occurs.
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Posted: 23rd Jul 2016 08:45 Edited at: 23rd Jul 2016 08:49
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Quote: "Ok this is different from your original post .... You said there the colt and shotgun didn't work ?
Are you saying its only custom and store bought weapons that don't show up ?"


I think you're miss-reading him, there's a fullstop in there, it's just not obvious because it wasn't followed by a capital

It should look like this:
Quote: "Only the game guru stock weapons like colt 1911, magnum, rpg, shotgun, uzi & grenades.

The knife does work and most of the medieval weapons."


What he is saying is:

Doesn't work - All of the default modern ranged weapons.
What does work - All of the default melee weapons, and all custom/store weapons

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Posted: 23rd Jul 2016 08:54 Edited at: 23rd Jul 2016 08:56
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Well, of course, as the dbo files are located alongside the model-, x- and fpe files and are taken from there .
stop GG completely
try searching for .dbo in the weapons folder.
mark and delete them
do the same for .bin file there
Run GG
report what happens
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If then guns are viewable to pickup but don't visually equip then this is the wrong folder to delete files from, the weapons that are in entitybank/weapons are only the physical weapons displayed when not on a character.

What he probably needs to do is go into files\gamecore\guns\modern then go into each weapon folder and delete the .dbo files (there should be 2 the specific gun dbo and a vweap.dbo) in there.

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Posted: 23rd Jul 2016 10:14
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Aaaaaahaaa, Belidos.
I wasn't really aware of that, so, thank you for that.
I always delete all .dbo from the GG directory tree, but nuncio doesn't (not sure why).
Anyway, if he reinstalled GG the way he described, the problem is not in that area, I suppose.
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Posted: 24th Jul 2016 10:24 Edited at: 24th Jul 2016 10:25
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Quote: "I think you're miss-reading him, there's a fullstop in there, it's just not obvious because it wasn't followed by a capital "


Ahhh yes I see it now ..... Thanks I was starting to get confused ..

One question I do want to ask ... Are you using a custom installation ?
If so try a default and see what happens ?
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Posted: 26th Jul 2016 06:30
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hi there. sorry for the confusion.
belidos is right:
the stock weapons that are in the weapons folder like colt, magnum, shotgun, rpg, grenades and sniper do NOT work.
the store weapons like BSPs modern weapons (as you can see in "safehouse") do work.
the (stock) knife works.
some of the medieval weapons work, but most medieval weapons don't work.

i already deleted all dbo files from GG directory and uninstalled and reinstalled GG but i will try to do this:

Quote: "What he probably needs to do is go into files\gamecore\guns\modern then go into each weapon folder and delete the .dbo files (there should be 2 the specific gun dbo and a vweap.dbo) in there."


Quote: "One question I do want to ask ... Are you using a custom installation ?
If so try a default and see what happens ?"

what do you mean with custom installation?
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Posted: 26th Jul 2016 07:52
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Quote: "what do you mean with custom installation?"


He means when you installed it with steam, did you choose a different directory to install it in, or just let steam install it where it wants?

Some times GG can be a bit funny if you install it in a directory other than the default steam directory.

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Posted: 26th Jul 2016 09:08
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ah, ok now i understand! i installed it with steam and i took the usual directory that was preset. it is in my steam directory but i also have to say that i did not change anything in the last 12 months. i'm working with GG for quite a long time and i never changed the directory after i installed it. i updated to a new version a few months ago and since then the weapons were missing and i haven't found a way around this yet.
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Posted: 26th Jul 2016 10:33
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And you are 100% certain that parental controls are off? You can double check by looking at your file menu, if the download link is missing then they're on.

Other than that the only other thing I can think of is maybe the folders the modern weapons are in have the wrong permissions?


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Posted: 26th Jul 2016 10:36
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Another thought...

Do the modern weapons show if you set them in the properties of the start marker?

If they do then it might be something to do with the weapon script, maybe pointing to the wrong folder for the weapons?

Oh and one more silly question, just to be sure (probably not the issue but we have to cover all bases) is your character first person or third person?

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Posted: 26th Jul 2016 11:11
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Quote: "And you are 100% certain that parental controls are off?"
yes, i have checked this already a long time ago, this was one of the first ideas

Quote: "Other than that the only other thing I can think of is maybe the folders the modern weapons are in have the wrong permissions?"
i will take a look but i don't know why because i haven't changed anything on the directories. i will look at it when i'm home!

Quote: "Do the modern weapons show if you set them in the properties of the start marker?"

you mean when i put startweapon.lua and let the player have the weapon from the start? no, it also doesn't work.
it is completely impossible to have one of the stock weapons in the hand of the player.

Quote: "Oh and one more silly question, just to be sure (probably not the issue but we have to cover all bases) is your character first person or third person?"
all my maps are first person.
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Posted: 26th Jul 2016 11:25
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Quote: "yes, i have checked this already a long time ago, this was one of the first ideas "


Check again, GG has a nasty habit of turning on the parental controls when you reinstall it, and occasionally whenyou update it, it can be a pain in the butt sometimes.

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Posted: 26th Jul 2016 11:27 Edited at: 26th Jul 2016 11:28
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you mean when i put startweapon.lua and let the player have the weapon from the start? no, it also doesn't work.
it is completely impossible to have one of the stock weapons in the hand of the player."


No, I mean when you place a start marker, select it, choose properties, and choose a weapon from the drop down in the properties.

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Posted: 26th Jul 2016 21:23 Edited at: 26th Jul 2016 23:55
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i can not select any of the weapons that are not working from the "has weapon" menu.
i deleted all dbo files from the weapon folders. still doesn't work.
the download link is there, parental lock is off.
it doesn't work.

i downloaded these science fiction weapons from the forum here some time ago. they also don't work. could i have messed up any file with that perhaps? but the BSP weapons from the store (AK47, Vector, SCAR etc) that also use "weapon.lua" do work perfectly though.


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now i just manually deleted GG from my hard disk and saved all my custom media. now i reinstall it with steam and put the custom stuff back in. if this doesn't work i have no more ideas. would be a sad end for my career as a levellord


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after deleting all of game guru and reinstalling it i finally have my weapons back! it's working again! i don't know why. i had to manually delete the folders "muzzleflash", "guns" and "decals" in the "gamecore" directory. that was the problem.
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Posted: 27th Jul 2016 09:20
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It sounds like it was probably something to do with the permissions of some of your folders somewhere, which is what I mentioned earlier, completely deleting them first then reinstalling them probably cleared the permissions, verifying through steam probably just overwrote those folders and kept the permissions which is probably why it didn't fix it.

Why permissions would just randomly change I don't know, but I've had similar on other software, where suddenly something's not working and I find the permissions on a folder set to archive or read only etc. No idea why this happens, but I just think .. meh windows what do you expect.. and carry on :p

Anyway really glad you got it sorted, now stop slacking and finish a game already

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i am very sure that it has something to do with the scifi weapons ("vickers gun") i downloaded and installed from the forum. since i installed it i seem to have this problem. as i deleted these certain folders the problem was over. i had this for a few months. when i'm home i will make levels like a maniac.

thank you for all your help, guys! this forum is a great place with nice people!!
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Posted: 27th Jul 2016 11:40
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Aaah I get you. Maybe the vickers had a custom shader with it that worked fine until something was updated and that then effected the default weapons, that would kind of jive with them being invisible when equipped.

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Posted: 27th Jul 2016 22:15 Edited at: 27th Jul 2016 22:33
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Quote: "after deleting all of game guru and reinstalling it i finally have my weapons back! it's working again! i don't know why. i had to manually delete the folders "muzzleflash", "guns" and "decals" in the "gamecore" directory. that was the problem."


I actually thought I suggested this ages ago to you in one of your other threads ...Backup your files folder ...Uninstall GG and manually delete your old files folder ... Then install GG fresh .... If it worked copy your old files folder back ... I had it in my head you had done that ...

Anyway ...Its awesome you finally got it sorted ..

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yes i think you told me that but i didn't know that i had to delete these folders bacause i didn't even know they existed now i understood this how it works and what it does and now it seems to work. i have reinstall the BSP guns from the store now. i'm waiting right now for GG to finish the download. it's awfully slow here. i'm really happy it works!
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That's great News !!
I know you put a lot of work in your maps and get awesome results ...
At least you have a clean install of GameGuru ....I actually do this on a regular basis if my files folder starts getting a little cluttered
Then copy back what I need .... Keeps it all in order and I have backups all the time ..
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Posted: 28th Jul 2016 06:18
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That's exactly what I do to. Every now and then i'll take a backup of non-store and non-default entities/scripts etc. remove GG completely and reinstall it, then put the backups back in nice neat folders, keeps things nice and tidy. Although sometimes I forget where to put some of the backups and have to redo maps lol

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the shotgun still doesn't work. how can this be?
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Posted: 3rd Aug 2016 01:19 Edited at: 3rd Aug 2016 01:43
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hey people can you help me again? now all weapons are disabled but the uzi. i have not changed anything on game guru. it was already working and now it's all gone again. i didn't change anything on my machine or something. i just reinstalled game guru, downloaded all store items, and now it's all strange again. the "futuretek shotgun" is working but when i shoot i just se black squares.

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i deleted all *.dbo files and now the colt1911 and the uzi are working. all medieval weapons are working. the shotgun, sniper, rpg, magnum and grenades are not working.
what kind of files can be wrong in the gamecore folders? and why?
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Have you added any custom weapons at all ?
The only thing I could think that would cause this is contamination of custom or third party additions ?
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i added the BSP weapon pack from the store. it works. it must have something to do with the files from the gamecore directory. something must be missing or corrupted ?
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i still do not have weapons exept uzi and pistol. the other stock weapons still don't work. can someone please help me? this is really really annoying me!
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It may be something in one of your custom weapons overriding

1. Make a backup of your files\gamecore\guns folder
2. Go to steam and get it to check your files
3. Once your files are updated check to see if the default weapons are working again (DO NOT download anything from the store yet)

are they working now?

If no:
I have no more ideas

If yes:
1. Open up your guns backup folder and copy over ONLY the weapons that are NOT default one at a time.
2. Test to see if they're still working after each weapon is copied over.
3. When they stop working then that means the last weapon you copied over is causing the issue, get rid of it and you should be fine.


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Posted: 22nd Sep 2016 17:32 Edited at: 24th Sep 2016 16:17
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On a lighter note. You could book a flight to the U.S. Once landed rent a car. Drive to any Walmart and buy your stock weapons there. They should be next to the oranges. But don't forget the teddy to stuff them in, on that way back

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lol. i would have problems getting the guns back home, i guess. but it would be easier than this here.

Quote: "are they working now?"


no. i did what you wrote, many files were replaced but the gun problem is the same. i have no custom weapons, i only downloaded BSP modern weapons from the store but this is all working and it didn't affect the stock guns until the last update.

i think i will not have these weapons in my game. this is really annoying. but thank you anyway!
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