to make and sell model packs with interiors , to buy and convert third party models ..when in game, enemies cant go in them and remains stuck on the floor.


yestereday I spent severel hours to make a good and nice cave map (every segment have forceisobstacle = 3) and when I put my enemies in it they didnt move...

the same with the stock cave models...

this is an HUGE handicap to game making and NEED to be fixed asap

I never seen a game making tool where enemies catn move into interior or cant go upstairs...

it's really a pain to me, but I must admit that graphic apart( but even graphic can beated with right mods)..old fpsc x9 is a lot better than GG

and dont tell to me that GG is new etc...since now after it gone out from EA ..these VERY BASIC issues MUST be solved...

how can we create a game if we cant add gameplay to it??

You must have been pretty drunk when you wrote this as I only understood like a tiny amount of it, are you trying to make way points or what? NPC's don't have the function to roam around not right now anyway.

LOL, I must still be drunk from last night then because I understood it! A little broken on the English part, but I think I got the gist of it! I don't know why they chose where they did to draw the line between early access and an actual release when there are a lot of unfinished/faulty things. I haven't had a chance to really play with these last few versions so I don't even know what's still broken. Anyway, I think the whole "out of early access" thing doesn't mean it's a done deal, at least with this. It's still in beta and will be for some time. It's not even close to what it will be when it's done.

yes I know... but characters movement I really think is a very very basic thing..really important that mus be adressed really fast...

I really dont want to do as always I done with x9..start some project/s and after a certain amount of time abort it due to lack of software functionalities...

i really love GG , the team... and firstly the community that alwaays help everyone ...but we really need some basic engine functionalities to can continue to use this software...

I agree. I'm not sure about your specific situation as far as the AI goes, but I know it is something they are working on. They are trying to come up with an original way to do it I guess. This is mentioned in several threads, but I don't know exactly what they're going after. The only thing I can offer is to verify that you have forcesimpleobstacle = 3 in the object's fpe.

The cave items are to far off the terrain for AI to walk in them even with the forcesimplecollision = 3. For AI to walk in these kinds of objects the floor must be no higher then 5cm thick.

These cave parts are not intended with walking AI at the moment. Once the capability to walk on objects thicker then that, then these should work also.

As far as the order things get done in programming, it boils down to what can be added and completed, with out disabling the functionality that is there. In the effort to make this an easy game making experience, it also must be simple and almost one button to accomplish. This is the hard part. Making it transparent and simple.

AI requires to know where they are in 3d space at all times, making it difficult to let them do there thing. Yes this could be done right now, but at the expense of you having to draw or trace the intended objects that you want them to walk on. Not for every one and certainly not easy.

This product is still in Beta even thou out of early access and new functions and completed functions will continue to be made for years to come.

Hope that clarifies some questions.
Thank you.

Btw. the zombies scare water...
They never go in the water, so water is a save place to be
Now I know why zombies stink hahahaha

I do agree that I think it would be in TGC's best interest to avoid navmesh, that would really complicate the ease of use with building a level on the user end. I struggled quite a bit with it in other engines and I personally would prefer a system where the enemies can just figure out on their own where they can walk. Believe that's the aim for GG thankfully. Though i would assume this is going to take a lot of work programming on TGC's part. As right now I don't think you can have an enemy walk around on a rooftop? I haven't tested out the forcesimpleobstacle = 3 command in the FPE yet. Though it seems that would only work if the object is close enough to the base terrain.

they will actually walk off the terrain onto any object and walk across that, only on the down hill direction, getting them to leave the terrain in the up direction is the stopping point right now. And they will not go over water plane that is exposed at all right now.