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Scene Commander
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Posted: 7th Jan 2015 15:58
Hi all,

My second request of the day:

Some users have reported grass disappearing on medium shader settings. Is this happening for anyone still?

If you can replicate it, it would be great if someone could make a video showing what is happening (youtube please).

We've tested on quite a few machines, using a mix of cards and motherboards and we can't reproduce it.

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Posted: 7th Jan 2015 16:06
I did notice that myself but I think it was down to the Vegetation slider...... Unless its up full it pretty much vanishes on medium...
Would that be what's being experienced ?
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Posted: 7th Jan 2015 16:19
That's not happening for me unless the slider is below 8.. Maybe on other systems?

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Posted: 7th Jan 2015 17:02
I seem to remember different grass types can work differently from others. The default grass works better than some of the others you can choose from. Shader settings vary as well, so it is a difficult one to pin down. For me, it's not that the grass disappears, it is just the draw distance is much lower and the fade effect ends up making the grass look almost non existent. posting that level you asked for atm, but will see if I can find an example of the grass problem.



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Posted: 7th Jan 2015 18:53 Edited at: 7th Jan 2015 19:02
its happen on my pc. here is a clip about it



edit:

hmm I canĀ“t upload it

edit2:

sent it to you per dropbox

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Posted: 7th Jan 2015 20:45
I get it with highest settings. In shallow water so swamp land is iffy

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Posted: 7th Jan 2015 21:29 Edited at: 7th Jan 2015 21:34
Had a quick test. Default grass shows distinct differences due to shader settings.





Full shader settings, reasonable coverage, no fade.



Medium shader settings, less coverage no fade.



Lowest settings, worse coverage but fades nicely.



I think the fade effect should be present in all settings, and not to the detriment of the draw distance we have already, as that is already fairly low as it is. Flat floors tend to look okay but hills always have grass growing up them as you approach Never looks good to me.



Other grass types differ in how they react, really as mentioned previously (not in this post), the grass needs a good sorting through.



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Posted: 11th Jan 2015 09:57
I'm confused here.. is this a draw distance issue? Where on medium settings the grass doesn't draw in the distance... if so I have this problem. I could post screenshots if you like and give you my system specifications. I didn't think it was a problem though as I assumed the draw distance was lower to compensate for less powerful computers!
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Posted: 11th Jan 2015 14:42
@Duncan Peck the problem looks like this:

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Posted: 12th Jan 2015 07:43
@Corno1.

As you are the only user who seems to be able to demonstrate this issue, could you please let me know your system specs and possibly supply me with an FPM.

Many thanks,

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Posted: 12th Jan 2015 14:15
I have the same issue as Corno_1 shows..
Low, Grass
Med. NO Grass
High Grass

Tried everything, baking the level.. changing vegetation sliders.. no change for medium grass setting

System specs.. I7, 12GB ram.. AMD HD7950.
My guess.. it only happens on AMD systems..

I can supply you with screenshots, but hey would be the same as Corno_1 already showed.

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Posted: 12th Jan 2015 15:29 Edited at: 12th Jan 2015 15:30
System Specs:

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4460 CPU @ 3.20GHz

8131 MB RAM

Windows 8.1 x64

AMD Radeon R9 200 Series



Notebook Specs:

Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU @ 2.00GHz

4096 MB RAM

Windows 8.1 x81

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4300 Series



Different Devieces same result.

Quote: "My guess.. it only happens on AMD systems.."


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Posted: 12th Jan 2015 17:13
The draw distance issue I point out is for me, annoying. Why does the only fading occur on lowest? This means that on medium and high the fading is not present and thus looks ugly very often. Just make a hill, cover the scene with grass, get a suitable distance from the hill and walk towards it. On all but lowest settings the grass magically climbs up the hill. It does on lowest also, but as the fade is there it is not as near so jarring. Also, different grasses give different results, I just thought I'd show even the default stock grass is not perfect yet. Perhaps, if performance is an issue, at least a way to enable the fade on the higher settings.



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Posted: 28th Jan 2015 20:06
I am having the same problem as Corno 1.
Specs. Lenovo notebook
AMD A10 quad core 2.5 ghz
AMD Radeon HD8680G + R5 M230 dual graphics.
6 GB Ram DDR3

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