Quote: "Perhaps, but please realize that MANY bugs were picked up in testing that were NOT fixed before release due to time constraints. The testers can only test and report. Please stop blaming the hard working testers."
Taking it completely out of context makes it sound pretty mean. We were discussing the Steam release. Unless you're from the future...
But here's a much larger snippet of the conversation, and since that's all on the previous page, nobody will probably read it, and I really don't want anyone thinking I was being a dick:
Me: Sounds like an ambitious goal, but I have confidence that he can pull it off within a reasonable margin of that time frame. I hope we'll see at least one more beta in that time, perhaps the final pre-Steam release? I mean, someone has to put it through the ringer, right? I'm marking my calendar!
Marked my calendar, March 5. That also happens to be a payday for me, and Purim, as well! It's going to be a really good day!
Syncromesh: Quote: " I mean, someone has to put it through the ringer, right?"
Agreed...At least one update......Who better to check it out than us ....Nothing against the Alpha testers ( who will see it in progress anyway )
But Im sure its better that Lee knows of anything serious that we all find rather than a whole steam community.....
There pretty ruthless and unforgiving ...Honest
Me: Quote: "There pretty ruthless and unforgiving ...Honest "
Yeah, I've read many of the comments on Steam, and to be honest, while I realize they can be unduly harsh in my opinion, they have swayed my decision on many an occasion to make a purchase. I know from my own experiences that the people least satisfied with a product (or anything, really) are the most vocal, and most people don't consider diplomacy when angry! This is to be expected, but seldom do those that are satisfied with said product (or anything) actually bother to say anything! I don't believe there are enough alpha testers anyway (I don't know how many there are) to really give this product a sufficient run through.
You see, in this context (being the actual conversation), I point out that for the Steam Release, the alpha testers alone would not be sufficient. I don't know how many there are, and I don't care. There may be 200, but if there were enough, then beta testing would be a waste of everyone's time. I in no way criticized them for the release of 1.009.
And as long as you were following the thread, you would recall that earlier on I said this:
Quote: "I'm pretty sure they released this beta a little prematurely, with such a long wait for it and the holiday break and all. Based on previous posts, the "internal testers" were not responsible for green lighting this release. I think TGC just wanted to give us something to play/work with while they were away. It has bugs, for sure, every program does. This beta let us see, really, how much progress has been made in the eon since the last release.
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