Ok we can Create single player games and eventually sell them....But how does this work with Multiplayer....
Will it basically mean we can only create Multiplayer maps we can share on steam ?

Or can our single player game map be used as Multiplayer if we wish....... Any chance of some info on how multiplayer will actually work...Will it be steam only and we wont be able to host our own ?

Sorry to jump in but i would also like to know the above along with how does custom media work say you the player makes a map with custom media and hosts the game does the player joining have to sit and wait for the media to download ?

Lets hope that its not just uploaded maps to steam only... . .

I want to create a game where people can host a server so others can join.
And that the same effects, lightning shadows etc from the Singleplayer will be possible in MP.

My understanding is that multiplayer will require Steam since TGC is using the Steam framework for all multiplayer infrastructure (which was wise as it saves them months or even years of creating a comparable system from scratch). You will still be able to host a server through the Steam network, invite friends etc. Presumably the same lighting and technical merits of single player will be inherited in multiplayer games.

Does this cost anything?
What's about your fees, how it works in this case?

3com

@3com steam is free m8

The way it works is the engine is using the Steam match making system and Steam client to client networking framework. This means you can share levels with anyone that has FPSC Reloaded on Steam. When you join the hosts lobby you will download the map and all the assets required to run the level. You will then be able to play with them. When you are done the levels and assets will most likely be deleted.



You are right in thinking you must have both Steam and FPSCR.



Eventually the system will change so when you build the game in its final form you will be able to define a Steam AppID allowing you to release your own Steam game that does not require the user to own FPSCR only your game. This is not going to be done for a while until the engine is more feature complete.



The system is not fully completed yet but the lobby system works, the map downloading works and you can play together with up to 4 players at the moment.



There is a possibility of dedicated servers as I believe the Steam framework does allow for that but again not for a while, one job at a time.



As a side note if you want to publish your game on Steam and use the MP system that is free you just have to go through Greenlight to get your API details to be able to publish.

So from what I can gather then Reloaded will only be Multiplayer through steam.....Im not sure if that's a good or bad thing to be honest.

In X9 classic you could actually select to build a multiplayer game and host your own server afterword...

I was kind of hoping for the same type of feature.



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Thanks Next ...you must have posted whist I was typing.... Im just not keen on being steam reliant ..

Thanks for the info Next



Gulp my one level is already bordering on 4gb lol i hope it will be compressed before sending and in packets

what about multiplayer co op games, that are not head to head against each other like?
I was wanting to make a co op game at some point, aswell as a pvp game lol..

Me neither, I'd rather have less inconvenience for players who might not constantly play games and/or may not have/want a Steam account. It seems like just one more thing for them to have to do.


Does that mean that every multiplayer game we create has to pass Greenlight? What if I just wanted to make a simple LAN-hosted MP game? (Like we could do with FPSC Classic.)

Rather disappointing, but oh well.Will wait till I can build standalone MP games, it is what I was hoping for.....so meh for the time being.

Hi all,

The Next is correct, but there may be some confusion. You will only need to get a Greenlight if you intend to sell your level orgames on Steam, this is the case with all commercial Steam apps. If you just want to share a level with friends, then you will be able to do that, for free without needing to go through any approval process.

I hope that's clearer.

SC

Thanks mate.

Just a question, is there another different way to sell a game, without steam?

3com

I guess its uncertain or perhaps not as yet if your Multi Player game levels/Games will in fact support all of the features and qualities of your single maps due to the potential file sizes, complexities and system requirements.

I have no idea what kind of level of data streaming Steam supports and how well Reloaded will be in managing that either in Multi Player mode/levels.

Presumably your Multi Player levels will need to use features, functions, qualities and content of a reduced nature so as to run efficiently across data streams. If you are expecting to run Reloaded in a massive online experience with a lot of players connected at once and at the same kind of quality as the specs you may be able to achieve in a single player stand alone game I think you will be very lucky.

There are a few sites you can put your game on when done but i recommend making your own web site or get someone to make you one and do it from there that way when someone buys your game the download link will be Emailed to them ect.

Doing it this way requires you to advertise your game like mad but cuts out the middle man.

Also i am sure Steam takes a massive 30% on all sales so but one advantage is the amount of users so even if you sell your game for as little as £10 you will still get a nice return.

Or I could give you your own Game page on Reloaded Files Like Cosmic's or Similar to sell your games with your own PayPal Buttons etc

http://www.reloadedfiles.co.uk/cosmic.html

Plenty of time for that yet though I think

lol for sure lets see if it can actually make a decent map at reasonable fps

Good idea synchromesh!, but as TattieBoJangle say, step by step.

3com