Hi,



I have just posted this onto You Tube. It's still early days but you can see the potential for this module already.







Rick

Looking good it will be a nice feature after the core is fixed cant wait

Nice to see a good start there for the Construction Kit.



I guess there will be a lot of users will find that a very valuable tool and look forward to it being included.

Looking Great !!!



The option to export and import constructions would be brilliant !!

they could then go on the store or shared if the creator wish's to

Looks Nice.







Or put custom textures on those shapes!

This looks like a great start. In addition to the above suggestions, which I think are very good, it would be great if we were able to include some functionality of the construction kit into our game creations, like an API to the functions that allow the placing/removal of objects.



Think Mindcraft/Terraria meets Duke Nukem or Serious Sam.



Food for thought anyway.

I like that we can finally edit in a snapping grid fashion. As I've been waiting for this since day one with Reloaded. Are all the pieces of a set width? Also can you edit in fly-mode?

That's looking great it has a lot of potential

cant wait to play with the final product there.





are you going to be looking at setting up a similar editor

on the 2d editor?

I hope there's a way to expand an area, instead of putting together numerous cubes for one ground level (where you could just use a single plane). This kind of looks like an enhanced segment tool.

It already looks like its close to having the ability to add your own textures..

The more customisable the better so we don't have maps or games that all look the same...



Its brilliant to see that although we thought we went a step slightly back with this beta things are actually going forward with work being done on these new additions. I just want this to be my ultimate gaming tool



Whilst waiting I have been playing with the X9 Fps Creator and im impressed with what the community have created for that !!

Looks great, can't wait to try it!

I was really hoping this would be included in the latest build. It seems just as I imagined. I hope you can easily clone any building made using this also It reminds me of when I made some basic parts in Blender to do the same job Just my Blender parts were a bit too good an example of programmer art!

Love the hammer (construction) .



Dave

ok so im wondering about this alittle.



1, why no finished product in the vid just a ruff putting a few walls together? how do we enter/exit the buildings? are there closed attachable doors that will open with the door code and load to a new map or, are they going to be like the stock buildings and all just open doorways like thing?.



2, this looks a lot like the vid a user posted awhile back of them doing the same things with their beta as a test for segment like building.



3, how much memory is this going to use up?, we are struggling for entities now, seems if we want a whole city we are going to be pushing it to the limits again very soon?.



4, how many entities types we having in this building module thing?, 100s? 1000s? lots of styles out there sci fi, fantasy, western, and more but then also there are the different styles of buildings within those groups too. might be along while before some we see enough to make any1 type of game perhaps?



5, not that I have much experience with classic but how is this different from segments from the older software?.





sorry if this is sounding complaining its not im just wondering all of the above lol, seems to me this might make reloaded take along time to do a city, building each 1 with segmented parts and such. and then there is the difficulty we have already with placing items inside buildings.. how will this affect that problem of placing and picking up items we misplace or want to move? without the much needed undo button!?.



also this vid looks more like a feature in a game than a feature for an engine, with the hammer and current trend for building survival games lately lol. tbh im unsure how this will be, until I test it and put something together lol..

This looks pretty neat, and I could see people having a lot of fun with it, in time, building their worlds.



On the technical side of things, does each individual piece use a single draw call? Or does it automatically combine meshes that use the same texture set into a single draw call?



I would think that combining them into a single draw call would be essential. Because if each individual piece resulted in a draw call, it could quickly spiral into hundreds or even thousands of draw calls, if a user were to build a large castle or small village using this tool. You could have the fastest video card on the planet and it would starve because the CPU wouldn't be able to feed it draw calls quickly enough.

That's the point I was trying to make, Bond.

I seem to remember Lee saying a while back that this would be the case .



Dave

I have seen this video and the construction kit idea seems to be very fun, it looks like Minecraft. Indeed this will be a very fun feature of FPSCR, and i think a lot of people will love to create their buildings and scenery with this tool.



However, i think is essential, especially for 3d artists, that we have a way to use the construction kit in a full 3d view (a kind of 3d fly mode), not just in 1st person mode. And i think it would be very good to have gizmos (the 3d axis) while positioning the pieces and also if we could have a way to see the exact position of each mesh in the 3d world (coordinates) it would help us to have a pixel perfect alignment.



One more concern, it is looking very similar to the old segment system, i mean, the mesh pieces (the floor and wall) they seem to have exactly the same size. I mean, will we be confined to the old 100x100 segment size? I mean, can we use any kind of mesh of any shape and size, and have perfect colision (will we be free of the old FPSC colision problems with custom meshes)?



Cheers.



007.

All the above questions are good, and deserve an answer. Hopefully TGC will let us know on concerns raised.



I am hoping that each finished design would be converted to a single object with one single UV texture. Perhaps I am being overly optimistic here, but otherwise things would slow down quickly I'm fairly sure that this will be the case, but to assume makes an ass out of you and me, as we all know.



I also thought of the idea that it could be used in a game scenario to create a more survival type game. Rust for instance, seems fairly popular, but if you look at it closely you will notice, apart from performance, a level made in Reloaded would look better than Rust currently looks. The grass waves along the floor in Rust, creating the impression of movement by moving the plane along it's x axis, rather than Reloaded's way better animation, no odd movement with the grass here. Fair enough AI and speed needs more work though to compete.



If this system could be implemented in game as a crafting mechanic, it would make far more interesting games possible. Frontiers is another example of a survival game in early production that looks pretty cool. The ability to make something similar in Reloaded is a plus for me, I am far more interested in creating a more cerebral game than a simple shooter personally.



I have high hopes for this element of Reloaded!

This is from the news page







Sounds cool .



Dave

Very nice, looking forward to testdrive this

Years ago I conceived a construction utility similar to this for a multiplayer app I was working on--except instead of having "prefabs" of the same object but different dimensions, you'd instead start with a standard unit (e.g., 1x1 unit) and could stretch it on any axis as desired. This way you can create a much wider variety of objects at any size without needing a massive entity library. In my version you could then select any component and clone as needed. This would b a wise feature to add to this construction kit.

Thanks for the info granada, that is good news!

Just a quick note while I am on my forum rounds that Lee did not write this module and he is indeed still on core coding work The Construction Kit is in no way slowing down the main engine development in any way and no core functionality is being compromised by the development of this new feature for Reloaded. My contribution has been 3 emails and a phone call so far, and I can report that development is doing very well without my interference. Also, thanks to the platform prototype being used, this module will integrate very smoothly to the main engine when complete, again with very little involvement from me. Further, thanks to the way the module is being developed, ongoing improvements to the module can be conducted by the original coder or a third party, and does not require the personal attention of Lee.



NOTE: This also applies to the Object Importer, Rift Support and the New LUA Engine module, and anything else that you may construed as a new feature for Reloaded. Lee will be working on nothing but core functionality until further notice.

Hi,



Just remember guys this is early days for this module and we'll keep posting new videos to show progress. For me it's a personal wish to have had this created and we'll evolve it and improve it as we go.



I'll keep posting new videos to show how it's changing. In fact there's a new one HERE.



Rick