Hi guys

I have zero experience about hardware.
I'm going to buy desktop, among other options I found a pc that could be suitable for GG.

Specs



What does you think about?

Does the graphics card is suitable for GG?

http://www.geforce.co.uk/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gt-740

Thanks in advance for all feedbacks.

3com

I would recommend a better graphics card - I know price is always an issue, but you should buy the best you can afford. With nvidia, as a general rule 7 series cards are better than 6 , and not as good as 9 or 10. The second number (4 in this case) is even more important - a gtx 660 is better than a gtx 750. If you can afford it, I would go for at least a x60 model (ideally 1060, but 660, 760 or 960 would do). If you can't afford one of the x60 models, then rather go for a 750 - it's not much more expensive than the 740.

Hi 3com, I guess you need to think about how much 3D modelling, video editing, etc. and when these tasks will take place; will they be running at the same time?
I see your going to use the Intel i5 which has 4 core 4 threads. How much of these projects / tasks are you going to be doing at the same time to keep your FTP at the highest level without it degrading and GG crashing lol?
The GeForce GT 740 is more of a PhysX card then a real gaming card – I would only use this card if it was kicking around in the shed and I’m playing batman, etc. or I would just add an old GPU card not that I would need it lol.
Also will GG be supporting extra cores and DX12 in the future?

How I look at building a PC rig is never buy off the shelf, as it is already 6 months out of date with a good company. I would hate to think about a bad company lol.
Always think long term and what would I really want it for – will I have to upgrade again in a few months / a year, etc.
Can I upgrade my system without major cost like motherboards and graphic cards, etc?
What can I really afford that will not put me in debt.
Always use a PC building forum and test your rig for compatibility issues. Read the feedback on components too.

I use:- http://uk.pcpartpicker.com

Will I be running games in 4k+ and how many games are even 4K anyway?
Most game at this point in time don’t really use more than 64MB so no need for more.
Will I be rendering 4k+ yet – How much and will I need a better Intel chip with more cores.
Do I need a 4k screen?
Most new system with the latest graphic-cards supports VR anyway. Will I need VR yet?
Do I want to use more than one graphic-card for better rendering, ftp and great game design?
Which configure will suit you best SLI or MDA, etc. – Nvidia cards are moving towards MDA in some cases with gaming from 1080+ cards. So no need to SLI 3-4 cards anymore only in MDA mode – Multi Display Adapter Mode or LDA Linked Display Adapter Explicit. This will save you money long term.
Will you be overclocking and if so on the Intel chip and or GPU?
Basically think about a 3 year run of a med-top end pc for around 4-5k - Can easily cost less with a really good configure, compatibility test and shopping around.

What's is your budget? I like to pay once and my system to last 4-5 years on a good rig. But for just GG this could take that long before it reaches DX12 lol So just think about the cost really and get the best for your money. What is the team at GG using???

As gtox said, with the graphics cards the number can be misleading,

The first number (in your case 7) is the series of the card, the second number (in your case 40) is the speed/power/quality (whatever the word is I forget it now) of the card.

(note the below is a rough leymans epxlenation ,it's a bit more involved)
x10 & x20 = are work horse cards, they're more for business machines, general desktop use, such as word processing etc.
x40 and above are your gaming cards, x40 is low range, x50 is low to mid range, x60 is mid range, x70 is mid to high range, x80 and above are high end range.

If you are going to do anything that will tax a graphics card then I would recommend nothing lower than an x60.

As gtox said a 660 is actually better than a 750, however this is not always the case for example the GTX 580, GTX 670, GTX 960 are roughly the same in performance, they are different in what they can do, shader types they can use etc.

When choosing a card I tend to use toms hardware for their comparison charts:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gpu-hierarchy,review-33383.html

Thanks a lot guys!!!

I was looking another differents options (I think to buy desktop next weekend), and I found some Lenovo involving "Nvidia GTX 750ti 2GB", what's about that card?


Intel Core I5-4460
Ram 16 gb
Hdd 1tb
Nvidia GTX 750ti 2GB
Price 750 €

@ gd


Ya! tha's the idea!

@ Gtox
I think to look for GTX 760 , when in the pc store (I should go to Barcelona).

@ Belidos
Thanks mate for all the useful info.

Thanks again guys

3com

I guess it's better than the last. With the Nvidia GTX 750ti you will NOT need a power connector as its so small and will fit in any PCI express slot... good upgrade card for older PC.
But just make sure it has the I/O layout you want and the display adapter output. Have a look at the ASUS 750ti and other cards in the range too. It will give you better FTP.

ASUS GeForce® GTX 750 TI performance graphics

Some 750 Ti Comparisons

Some comparison images below. The [ Reference 750Ti ] card is the Nvidia GTX 750ti card.






gd Ed.

Buy at least a GTX 960 and you'll be happy for a few years.

Yeah i recommend a 960, i have one and was surprised at how good it is, and they're not all that expensive either.

Edit: If you get a choice, go for the ASUS brand, their Strix range is by default slightly overclocked compared to the stock cards, it doesn't look like a huge difference on paper, but in practice its noticeable.

I must admit I'm lost among so many technicalities. LOL

The most pc store sites I visite the most confused I am

Well I was looking about Asus and the prices are not too much noticeable compare with gtx as Belidos point above, even I've downloaded some "Suggested Street Price Lists" from asus site.

Aside as I can see via gd table comparison (ty gd), worth it.

Also take a look to gtx960 as MooKai point to above, difference in price among them, is not so huge.

I think now only need to negotiate with the store clerk computer, pc stated above plus some of these cards, and good price.

Thanks guys for all feedbacks.

3com

eh guys, what's about "AMD Radeon R9 370 - 2GB DDR5", exploring many options, so I had seen some HP pavillion with that card.

Thanks in advance

3com

The R9 370 is the equivalent of about halfway between the NVidia 950 and 960, so it should be a pretty decent card, not the best, but serviceable.

Btw, if you're buying a prebuilt branded PC, be very careful. Most companies, especially companies like HP tend to supply components that are only just able to run the specs listed.

For example (and I know from experience HP have been guilty of this) I've had branded PC's before that have had 150w PSU's with the components total draw being 142w, meaning that if I was to upgrade anything I would need to also replace the PSU, but they use odd sized PSU's so if I got a new PSU I would need a new case, then I found that the motherboard wasn't a standard size either so it wouldn't fit in a standard case, meaning it was just easier to buy another new PC. Fortunately with that one I cottoned on almost immediately after receiving it so sent it back for a refund with a letter expressing my disgust.

OMG! I has not mind on that, you are right with the standard arquitecture, going to force you use just their components, like many printer does.

Thanks for point that Belidos!

Now I'm discovering there are many factors to consider.

On the other hand, I have noticed there is now much tendency to sell the computer separately, I mean you buy the tower, but does not include monitor, you have to buy separate keyboard, mouse, and so on.
I remember in my times you buy all in one, the tower, monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc.

Buying all separatelly you quickly go up to 1000€, with towers having just a GT card.

I live in a small town near Barcelona, therefore computer stores are also small, Barcelona can only get a weekend, but these days the stores are crowded, the clerk will not be addressed as you need it does, in order to go crazy.

Computers offered by websites do not meet my need, I need personal attention, unhurried, without strain, and this alone can get a weekday.

I force myself don't run in a hurry and continue searching the most accurate pc, to fit my needs.

I'll keep all you updated.

3com

Yeah it can be awkward in some coubtries , just to reiterate though, my experience with branded PC's was a few years ago so it may be different now, but its good to check on these things just in case.

I'd always recommend a company that makes custom computers to your specs, you get what you need and usually cheaper.

Maybe there's an online company that can do that for you where you are? Personally I use an english company pcspecialist.co.uk for my pc's now, they're really good, maybe you can fi d a similar company that delivers to your country?

I've got some store in Barcelona than does the same, i'll give a try next weekend.
Thanks a lot Belidos.

3com