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MK83
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Posted: 4th Jun 2015 03:27
Referring to the system specs for the graphic card, I got to wondering something. I have a GTX 260, It only has 896 mb ram and a fairly low clock speed, but, it runs GG pretty well. Im going to upgrade my card, and don't have a lot of cash. So I won't be able to get the latest and greatest. What I was wondering is this, With GG what is the most important feature about the graphic card? ie, clock speed, ram, mem clock ? or all combined? Im looking at a card with a 810 clock speed 2 gig DDR3 ram, I think it is a GT 610. Will that do well for GG? If you could only add ram to a card that would be a lot easier, LOL. Let me know what you all think about that card, I know it is old, but it is cheap.
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Posted: 4th Jun 2015 03:52
I have a GTX 660, and its does ok, But if you can hold out for a little newer one, then you should be fine. The 700 series or above.
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Posted: 4th Jun 2015 03:59 Edited at: 4th Jun 2015 04:02
why does it have to be so powerful? And should it be GTX or does it matter. I found a GT 730 for about $60.00.
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Posted: 4th Jun 2015 04:05
Not so much for now, but next year. plus you will wonder why you waited so long. It is a big difference and is much more enjoyable.

Plus everything else is using better shaders and a better capable card will benefit you in the long run. And for $60, that is not bad for the joy you will receive.
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Posted: 4th Jun 2015 04:07
You can get Great cards at great prices if you look ..... Zotac and Gigabyte's, EVGA NVidia cards are great and vary in prices.
Sometimes a better card at a lower price .... just do you homework and check the reviews ..
Why pay for less when you can have more at the same price

http://www.ebuyer.com/store/Components/cat/Graphics-Cards-Nvidia?104=GeForce+GTX+for+Gaming
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Posted: 4th Jun 2015 17:18
Thanks guys.
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Posted: 4th Jun 2015 17:31 Edited at: 4th Jun 2015 17:49
@MK83

The Geforce GT 730 is a really slow card and is not worth $60, as it is outdated as soon as you buy the card. Any card from nvidia with GTX in the name is one of their modern technology cards designed for modern games. If is has GT in the name then it is going to very outdated right away.

Look here http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_list.php and order by the passmark score, the higher the better. The GT 730 has only 924 which is way below suggested for GG.
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Posted: 4th Jun 2015 19:45
Non expert in graphic card, I've a question related with.
I've a Intel HD Family card, using the The Next's link above I did a comparision between GeForce 7800 GTX and my Intel HD Family card, being a card n00b the only I've clar with the result is the price, GeForce 7800 GTX=225 and Intel HD Family card=400.

Therefore it is lawful to think that my card is a good card.
Then why I never get more than 16 fps, no matter if the map is full or empty; I always get between 7 and 16 fps?

On the other hand I have noticed that you guys are using Geforce cards, and almost nobody uses an Intel board, which leads me to think that Intel is not a good card for GG. I'm a bit confuse here.

Can anyone clarify this for me, please?

I work with my laptop, and as you already know you can not change the graphics card, but add a new one; what prevents me from doing this, is that at some point someone here that have problems with GG for working with the appropriate graphics card.

Thanks in advance.

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OS: Windows 8.1 (64) - Ram: 4 gb - Hd: 283 gb - Video card: Intel(R) HD Graphics

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Posted: 4th Jun 2015 20:08 Edited at: 4th Jun 2015 20:19
When I said all GTX cards I may have been a bit too vague

The really old nvidia cards also featured GTX in the name, then nvidia went back and reused the naming with the new series of cards.

The card ranges you are looking for are as follows, roughly best first.

GeForce GTX TITAN X
GeForce GTX TITAN Z
GeForce GTX TITAN
GeForce GTX 900 series
GeForce GTX 800 series (this series is mobile only)
GeForce GTX 700 series
GeForce GTX 600 series
GeForce GTX 500 series (old now but ok as min upgrade)
GeForce GTX 400 series (old now but ok as min upgrade)

Each series normally goes up in increments of 10 so in the 700 series you have the following cards. 780, 770, 760, 750, 740, 730, 720, 710. The general rule of thumb is that the higher the number the better, until you get to the TITAN cards which are the best cards you can get and really are over kill for any current games.

Avoid cards with any other names as they are outdated.

After each of those series names you may see two things these are as follows...

"M" for example "GeForce GTX 780M", these cards are normally only used in laptops and are smaller more compact versions of the non "M" cards, I would never suggest getting one of these on desktop machines as they lose a lot of performance to fit into laptops.
"Ti" for example "GeForce GTX 660Ti", put short the Ti an updated version of that card which often consumes less power while providing better performance.

You then also have AMD cards which I could explain also if anyone really wants and AMD card but in my experience nvidia is better while AMD is the cheaper option.

You may also have Intel cards which are all integrated and are generally awful performance-wise, I could explain these as well but there are so many different versions and they all have the same name and perform better based on your CPU version, which makes it really hard for anyone to tell what GPU they really have.

I have a GeForce GTX 780 on my GameGuru machine which is now about a year old and runs every game I want it to at max at over 60FPS, it is the best upgrade to a GPU I have ever made and is also not that expensive now it isn't a brand new card. Anyone looking to upgrade would do well to get one, I had a GeForce GTX 660Ti and that was great but was outdated very quickly when the 700 series came out with much better performance.

For GameGuru anything from the 600 series or above will be smooth running. However please remember that GameGuru is very CPU heavy and as such a new GPU does not guarantee a fast gaming experience.

Hope that helps
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Posted: 4th Jun 2015 21:07
Awesome and helpful, thanks again for explanation.

Saving money for Titan one and more ram, currently just 4 gb, I think is very limited ram memory.

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Posted: 4th Jun 2015 21:25
Anyone that is interested here is a new thread that is stickied at the top of this board, maybe it will help some people out I will continue adding to it.

https://forum.game-guru.com/thread/212251
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Posted: 5th Jun 2015 02:27
If you SLI two cards together does that double your passmark score?
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Posted: 5th Jun 2015 02:44 Edited at: 5th Jun 2015 02:52
Quote: "If you SLI two cards together does that double your passmark score?"


No. SLI will improve framerate a bit because they will render frames in a tag-team fashion but don't think you will get double the performance just because you have double the cards. You're still basically limited to the single card performance in most circumstances and in some cases, depending on the cards and motherboard being used you may even reduce performance due to splitting PCIE bandwidth. The amount of benefit is often governed by how well the software is written to work with SLI or Crossfire... I'm not where GG stands in that regard.

Quote: "Saving money for Titan one and more ram, currently just 4 gb, I think is very limited ram memory."

Titan is, IMO, pretty poor for gaming when it it comes to price/performance. Something like a 980ti would be pretty much just as good but for a fraction of the price.
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Posted: 5th Jun 2015 02:51
I've got an older card, a GeForce GTX 570 HD with 2.5gb vram, this card works with game guru perfectly and I get a good 60-90fps when developing stuff. Never tried a complete level though.
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Posted: 5th Jun 2015 02:54 Edited at: 5th Jun 2015 02:56
Quote: " GTX 570 HD"


X70 tier and above are generally good and stay viable for several generations. My previous card was a GTX 570 and would still be using it if it didn't die on me.
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Posted: 5th Jun 2015 03:00 Edited at: 5th Jun 2015 03:01
As you can tell from my signature in the forums, my card is quite out-dated. I have to seriously consider what card is best for the future of my computer.

Also with Fallout 4 coming out... I'm definitively going to need to upgrade lol or get a next gen console
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