I seem to recall there was a debate about this at some point. Artists who are making new weapons have remodeled the player's hands (with gloves, sleeves, etc.). I think it's a shame. It just seems unrealistic. You wouldn't instantly change your clothing and get/remove a tattoo every time you changed weapons. I find the break in continuity quite jarring.

It would be nice to see the player's hands when disarmed, so it would look more realistic, such as pushing a door or closet.

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Better yet to be able to choose the style of arms you want for your game and keep them with any weapon pickup.

My challenge has been the lack of diversity in the hands. There should always be a female option, and at least 4 skin tones. Also, at least 2 glove colors, black, and white. Doesn't make sense to have a winter scene with black gloved hands.

that got to my attention as well,

i guess that´s because for the "basic" GG there are "more or less" 2 main themes: modern and medieval ... and medieval is supposed to be everything that´s not a fireweapon

i agree that´s weird if you use "mixed" weapons for your game, but i am sure that will change and is some kind of a placeholder at moment
especially with the upcoming character builder, it would be logical to me that this will include definition as player character for a certain model....should solve it all

@lordjulian

That probably wasn't what the artist was thinking when they created the new arms, for instance I am thinking of creating new arms (If I can work it out) for the civil war pack I am putting together. This is because I think it might be nice to have arms that suit the battle scene.

I wouldn't hold my breath on 'character builder.' Anyone remember 'character shop?'

http://www.thegamecreators.com/?m=view_product&id=2094

That was a big disappointment. Never really got any support from TGC on that one.

I have edited the textures of hands to suit my needs before, but it would be nice if people would create packs and weapons that show more than just middle-aged male Caucasians as heroes. IMHO

Errant AI had a large selection of skin colors and female hand textures in his MP9&10 gunpacks...they are still out for sale and shouldn't be too hard to get into GameGuru.



The hands have not been remodeled as the player does not have any default hands. The artists have made their guns from scratch which is why they look different depending on the artist. There is little to no way around this. Nothing has been remodeled, the stock guns are just as much a "modelpack" as any guns you would purchase.



There have been numerous FPSC users who mixed modelpacks in the old days... I and some other users have been unforgiving enough about this that the trend eventually ceised. Guru is easy to use but that does not mean without effort. You will have to learn the basics of texturing, rigging and modeling eventually if you aim to make a decent game with your own media. You will then have to rely on the handrig from the artist of your choosing and rerig all guns that haven't been made by this artist. Rigging guns to hands, if the necessary animations are present, is remarkably easy.

Here is a tutorial video.



There is an FPSC modelpack with those animations. Modelpack 54. You will have to handle the scripts and set this up yourself though. Asking for this to be an in-editor drag'n'drop feature is a little much.



See above. This has also never been the norm in 3d modeling. Rigs have usually been sold separately and for a lot more than the FPSC guns. I write this out because people who are new to gamedeveloping likely have little to no idea how priviliged we are these days when it comes to assets.

As far as skin tones are concerned or female hands: Retexturing an already premade texture is really easy and I don't see how that should be a must to be added to the already large workload of modeling and animating a custom guns. Retexturing male arms doesn't look too great either...if you want a female handrig, you'd have to buy one as women tend to have different looking hands than male commandos.



It does not. Here is a nice winter camo-pattern. Happy texturing!



Character models have lowerpolygon arms and the animations would be inferior to rigged FPS hands. The player camera is not a character (you can attach one to the camera but that is unrelated). This also means that the character creator is not related to the playerguns. (characters use an entirely different model for each gun)



I don't know this for certain but I believe this has not been made by TGC members but by a community member and has only been sold via TGC. Why did it disappoint you?




Like I said! EAI's old packs had all kinds of variations and have been the most used weapons in FPSC back then. Artists choose to create "middle-aged male Caucasian" arms because they sell the best and are easiest to work off. Its easier to design a black, female assassin wih tattoos and scars from an almost uncolored texture than revert back from that to something else... Not sure if I expressed that in the best way but I hope you understand.

The main character of my game is a woman and it was not too timeconsuming to set that up.

In conclusion: The amount of stuff available on the market (not just here) is really a golden age for us indies. Purchased assets are a well developed base to work off and create your own ideas without the detailed technical knowledge...they aren't done out of the box for anyone who seriously wants to design his own game.



-Wolf

My post was more of a poke at the modelling community, not TGC. I never for a second thought that TGC was responsible for making this happen. Although, a little encouragement from them would help. As I've said, I've retextured a few before. It's not very difficult. However, female hands and arms really need remodeling to look good.

As for character shop, I think the community as a whole has been asking for a better documented process on getting custom characters imported. I've even seen some of the 'pros' here express frustration with the process. I myself am more of a designer, and coder. In the past I've spent a fair amount of money to have a modeller create custom characters for me. I can easily say that most of my cost was for their time to get the character into FPSC, and functioning correctly. I'm hoping this will be remedied with GameGuru, and the new attitude around it. Cheers!