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Posted: 19th Oct 2014 14:33 Edited at: 13th Nov 2014 10:57
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Missus goes away for a wedding in mid November, and wondering if anyone would be interested on seeing a one hour live cast level made from scratch with viewer's input and see what we get come out? Anyway any ideas or thoughts about this idea welcome

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Posted: 19th Oct 2014 14:52
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Interesting idea!

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Posted: 20th Oct 2014 22:15
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I would We are thinking of switching to twitch to replace a blog day, covering some tricky techie subject from the software, and would be great to see it from the end users perspective first. If you are arranging a day and time, I can even announce it on our TGC feeds so you get some traffic (no pressure)

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Posted: 21st Oct 2014 01:09
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I hope I'm off work the following day! I've a feeling that with time differences it'll be necessary for me to be either up really late or up really early! I'm okay with it either way!

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Posted: 21st Oct 2014 10:21 Edited at: 21st Oct 2014 10:23
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So a bit of interest here and even from lead developer, I best brush up on my game making and sort out my stream to make it as smooth as possible will nail down a final date and time early November and I will be doing a shift change at work during the period missus will be away so that opens up a night where I normally go to at least 3am my time anyway so that would be more normal time for some but this is early speculation, still some planning to be done which I'm thinking I will open up to the community as well, so to start with let's choose a terrain type, I.e will it be a city with a sewer, or a desert level, a tropical level with islands?,



Some of the stuff that will be available for this:

TGC city pack

The awesome sewer pack

All my store media

The extra large sci fi walls pack

The gold pledge assets pack



So let's get some ideas flowing so when I put the stream live we can hit the ground really running



Oh and @lee if you would like I can also put some info on the side of the screen about pledge costs and where to pledge and with permission display the fpsc reloaded logo on screen aswell

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Posted: 21st Oct 2014 10:51
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I think this is a great idea, but to allow as many users the chance to get involved, it might be best restricting the media just to default, free store and gold pledge media. This would help a lot of users to get involved without too much in the way of investment. It would also allow the publishing of the final FPM so users can play around with it. (If that's what you want).

Just a thought..

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Posted: 21st Oct 2014 11:23
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Well.... What I want is for this to be a community project so what I'm thinking of doing is to make up a survey voting form with google forms and get the community opinion on everything but I like the suggestion of keeping it all standared media so all can play with the fpm after it.

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For help with banner art and links, email rick@thegamecreators.com who will happily provide. Anything to help the community and increase exposure is a good thing!

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Posted: 22nd Oct 2014 18:39
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this sounds cool aushadow m8 sign me up for watching

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I'll try to tag along if I am about at the time and real life doesn't interfere! I've considered doing this sort of thing myself, but am not sure my internet could really keep up with a stream. Good luck!



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Posted: 27th Oct 2014 10:42 Edited at: 27th Oct 2014 11:39
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Running a test stream of broderlands now @ http://www.twitch.tv/shadowhunterau , will update this post when i end the stream



TEST STREAM ENDED, have some things i need to fine tune but early test seem ok

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Posted: 27th Oct 2014 12:16
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missed it :/ ahh well is it steam you have borderlands i could jump on





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Posted: 27th Oct 2014 13:05
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Yep on steam have borderlands 2 and the pre sequel, steam name ShadowHunterAU, always enjoyable to play with others

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Posted: 27th Oct 2014 14:39
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This is a very interesting idea. I like it.

so, your main idea for this, is to show new users and old users alike, how another developer creates a map using the software and to discuss different techniques and ideas along the way?

So, in the long run, the end result would be a small community made level.

I will watch. Count me in.

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Any updates? Yea or nay?

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Posted: 5th Nov 2014 07:13
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At the moment I'm having a hard time streaming fpscr, I can stream borderlands alright but fpscr gets really delayed and glitchy, working on it but not looking good, could be due to my upload speed not being able to handle it

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Posted: 5th Nov 2014 12:05 Edited at: 5th Nov 2014 12:06
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That sucks, I was really liking that idea, but I understand. Perhaps someone else around here has a decent upload speed who could host it? It's funny, in my neighborhood I've a fiber node about 200' away from my back patio, but my actual feed is over a mile away. And I work for the damn company! LOL! I've been trying to get one of the guys to get under the street to re-route some of the cable but it's been too damn hot for someone to do that "as a favor", even though he was the one who suggested it. It's cooled off now, maybe I'll have a little luck over this winter (I live in a desert). Anyway, it's a great idea and who knows, maybe someone will step up to the challenge. Maybe it'll be even better with the new beta!

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Posted: 5th Nov 2014 15:23
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Yeah hopefully someone else might be able to pick the idea up and carry it on but yeah I live in regional western Australia on the edge of a desert as well so I understand the heat but no fibre node anywhere near here I'm running adsl2

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ah man this is sad news, I also was wanting to see this in action
what would be needed to do it aushadow m8?

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At the moment I believe a higher upload speed, I only get 300kbps or less and I think with the quality downsizing I have to use to stream it seems OK with borderlands but with fpscr it just makes it jump all over the place and yet still says I'm not dropping frames, a higher upload speed would allow for a better quality capture to be streamed however and probably eliminate the issue, unfortunately its impossible for me to get a higher upload speed as I have the fastest connection available in my area

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Posted: 5th Nov 2014 21:41
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ok m8, but I was more on about the softwares ect, I assume there are a couple your using to get it to work or whathave you.
if some1 else was to do this what would they need?, im a total noob when it comes to these kinds of things lol..

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Posted: 5th Nov 2014 22:19
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I may start streaming it when 1.9 comes out as i have streamed alot of games in the past but will wait and see what 1.9 brings performance wise no point in doing it with the current version as it may put people off.





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Posted: 6th Nov 2014 07:33
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@almighty, a program called OBS open broadcasting software, its free and easy to set up just YouTube set up obs for twitch and make a twitch account, then get your twitch stream key and put that into obs and good to go

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@ aushadow ah I see ok m8,
well I doubt I have the brains to do such things lol but good to know, and if tattie here is going to do it that be cool

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Ah, pity, I was looking forward to it. I can understand your Internet woes, pretty certain my upload is 3 times slower than yours, possibly more, and I live in a English Village, not the desert. How can that be? Apart from the fact I still have ADSL and not Fiber optic I really need to upgrade at some point.



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Posted: 7th Nov 2014 00:05 Edited at: 7th Nov 2014 00:34
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I'm on VDSL2 which is fiber to the node, then rides copper from there. I currently have 9Mbs dn/ 896kbs up (over a mile away). Don't know if that would be enough for this. I could get a 12 M circuit but my upstream would still have the 896k upstream limit. If I could get one of my coworkers to do as he suggested and cut over a couple pairs from my pedestal to the closer DSLAM, I could get 40M down/20 M up. Unfortunately, that isn't likely to happen anytime soon!





Alternately, I could buy a new house. We're running fiber to the home in new construction. Gigabit internet! I swore when I moved in here 5 years ago I would never move again, but who knows...

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Managed to get 700 Kbps today and got an average quality stream going with no dropped frames and no mouse glitching, can only stream at 480px but better then 240 right , ran a test today and has a 20 second delay (well 17 but yeah) so this may be back on the cards, need to get lucky and have someone else online at the same time to test view it for me so we can see if it's viable from the viewers side because here i am streaming and viewing on same comp, just 2 screens

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sign me up for helping you out aushadow m8, pm me details or something like that?

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Posted: 9th Nov 2014 14:08 Edited at: 9th Nov 2014 14:12
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Well at the moment I am looking at November 15th for the stream and hoping v1.009 will be out by then, big hope I know but if not then 1.0085 will have to do, something I do have to do but is decide on type of terrain. I'm thinking islands like in the video I did for the alpha cadence, can't link to it right now as I'm on my phone but yeah. Any other ideas using only the standards assets and the gold pledge media.



Something like this but bigger islands and more assets and gameplay, opinions?



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Posted: 9th Nov 2014 14:14 Edited at: 9th Nov 2014 14:32
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i have 15 minutes to test stream here: http://www.twitch.tv/shadowhunterau



Stream ended bugger no-one could see it but have to feed my kid now and get some sleep, maybe next time

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ah man sorry, i was not paying attention and playing a game lol.. my bad m8

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Posted: 10th Nov 2014 08:32 Edited at: 10th Nov 2014 09:05
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Test streaming again now at http://www.twitch.tv/shadowhunterau if anyones on and intrested, please post what you think if the streams clear enough on the twitch chat, if screen is still for a bit im probably just putting the dummy back in for my kid to try and get him to sleep



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Posted: 11th Nov 2014 03:44 Edited at: 11th Nov 2014 04:47
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If anyone's on and has a spare minute or 2 to check if my streams working OK would be great if you do just me know in the chat on twitch, going live now until my missus gets home which could be 5 mins or half hour



ENDED, a one hour 1 minute stream and was going well until the last 5 minutes my upload speed kept dropping to 500kbps for some reason and this was causing frame drops and stuttering, not sure if anyone from here saw it as 1 viewer jumped in and then back out within 30 seconds

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ah man no good, i keep missing these tests ... morning in uk are no good for me to watch these or help out, what time difference is there i wonder m8?!

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Posted: 11th Nov 2014 13:25 Edited at: 11th Nov 2014 14:15
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LOL, I keep missing them too! I'm probably at work while these are going on. It's 6:25 am right now (Just posting the time for comparison to server time, never really paid any attention to it)





EDIT: It looks like you might have been doing it also while I was watching TV last night as well! I'll check back in tonight and see what's happening. I'll keep the laptop on the couch just in case!

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Lol last night tonight before missus goes away so no computer tonight but tommorow night will run it again and for longer then an hour this time, I am GMT+8 time zone

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I'm about if you are testing any time tonight. I'll leave the stream page open.



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Will be testing tonight GMT+8 about 6:30pm onwards

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Nice! I think that's about 3:30 am my time (if my math is correct, I'm GMT - 7 hrs) so I'll be up and watching.

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Posted: 13th Nov 2014 09:51 Edited at: 13th Nov 2014 12:11
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CURRENT STATUS: Ended



streams up, will just be playing borderlands until someone jumps on then we can test the reloaded stream and see if it will be good enough to do a proper community level on the 15th, here's hoping it is,



EDIT: Lol thought i had a watcher but i think its just me the watcher counter picked up because im watching the stream so i can see what hopefully you guys would see , anyway, a borderland's i will go till someones on

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It's working here! Got up a bit later than planned, but hey, it's early! lol

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Posted: 13th Nov 2014 11:04 Edited at: 13th Nov 2014 11:23
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I'm up and it's working! Got up a little later than planned, and of course laptop had to run updates, lol. Trying to get registered right now.



Sorry for the double post, didn't realize I made a new page.

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Ok so TEST stream today was good, had 3 people watching and a small chat session going on about reloaded so looks good and stream will be up for 2 Hours (didn't think 1 would be enough). at the following Official time:

GMT+8 9PM (21:00) until 11PM (23:00)

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Posted: 13th Nov 2014 13:38 Edited at: 13th Nov 2014 13:41
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Hey guys just wanted to share the map i made while test streaming, heres an image of the map:



The idea is to fight your way through the islands to the commander's tent and kill the commander, gets harder the closer you get.

Anyway to get everyone through the first section the first gun is on the first island don't leave without it , also i find plays better with health regen off otherwise it's too easy.



FPM attached only 385kb

you need to have the foliage pack, i believe thats the only pack required

oh i also use henrys free chair but its not really required just more props in the level which i have attached here as well a few of henrys free models that just need to be unzipped in your entity bank



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Posted: 14th Nov 2014 02:57
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I just downloaded your level and played it. I lost my life countless times, lol. I had that same guy that went into the water that you had this morning (my time)!



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Posted: 14th Nov 2014 12:42
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yeah i don't think i left him enough terrain to move on but ahh well such is life.

community level stream starts in 24 hours and 17 minutes from time of this post , see some of you there, even if its just to chat about reloaded in the chat box

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Posted: 15th Nov 2014 09:37
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Just a reminder stream today at
GMT+8 9PM (21:00) until 11PM (23:00)

Less then 3hrs 30mins away

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Gonna make an effort to check it out today
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Posted: 15th Nov 2014 11:08 Edited at: 15th Nov 2014 11:10
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will start the stream early to flesh out a plan, so far i have this but need input to make it really a community level





this is the google drive link for this mapped out plan and permission is set so anyone can comment, so if you have a suggestion comment, and majority vote will decide it

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1Vcqa4CysEFMWhua0FuMXAyOXM/view?usp=sharing

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Posted: 15th Nov 2014 12:53
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STREAM LIVE NOW, lets make a mini game people ,

http://www.twitch.tv/shadowhunterau

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